"Spaced" Races And "Fresh" Horses Are Killing The Sport

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is exactly right. We don't know whether the injury came from the Preakness incident or not.

Well Rupert, do you think his training regimen helped cause or bring on the injury, because I think that it helped him in terms of it made his bone stronger However, if you present a different POV, I will listen to you and consider what you say. Or were you just referring to the fact that we will never know for sure that his injury came from the Preakness, or from the Belmont, or from a workout? Now, I know this is true.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Well Rupert, do you think his training regimen helped cause or bring on the injury, because I think that it helped him in terms of it made his bone stronger However, if you present a different POV, I will listen to you and consider what you say. Or were you just referring to the fact that we will never know for sure that his injury came from the Preakness, or from the Belmont, or from a workout? Now, I know this is true.

What makes you think it helped him ? Because they said it did? What do you think they are going to say? They may well have thought it would help but the results speak for themselves.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What makes you think it helped him ? Because they said it did? What do you think they are going to say? They may well have thought it would help but the results speak for themselves.

Well, I train show horses, not racehorses, and I know that working them the right way certainly helps keep them fit and sound. The results can't speak for themselves by using one horse...they just can't. That would be like saying that Barbaro's breakdown was caused by the fact that they layed him off for five weeks before the Derby, which is probably not the case.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Well Rupert, do you think his training regimen helped cause or bring on the injury, because I think that it helped him in terms of it made his bone stronger However, if you present a different POV, I will listen to you and consider what you say. Or were you just referring to the fact that we will never know for sure that his injury came from the Preakness, or from the Belmont, or from a workout? Now, I know this is true.

I really don't know what effect that strange galloping regimen had on him. I will tell you that I think he would have definitely won the BC juvenille if they didn't run him so many times. He was awesome in his first 4 races. In his 5th and 6th races of his 2 year old year, he didn't look like the same horse. If they would have spaced his races properly and made the BC Juvenille his 4th race of the year, I don't think he would have had any problem beating Wilko in the BC Juvenille.

I'm guessing that he was hurting by the time he got to the BC Juvenille. In addition, they waited awfully long before bring him back as a 3 year old. He didn't come back until Mach. I wonder if this was by choice. It probably was not. He probably had some type of injury and was not ready to run until March. I didn't like the way they brought him back on only two weeks rest after he won his first race back.

I just don't like the way they handled the horse. As I said before, if they only ran him 4 times as a two year old, I think he would have won the BC Juvenille. Not only that, but I think he would have come out of his 2 year old year unscathed and he would have probably been ready to go sooner as a 3 year old. Then they could have put him on a normal schedule instead of starting so late and having everything so rushed.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I really don't know what effect that strange galloping regimen had on him. I will tell you that I think he would have definitely won the BC juvenille if they didn't run him so many times. He was awesome in his first 4 races. In his 5th and 6th races of his 2 year old year, he didn't look like the same horse. If they would have spaced his races properly and made the BC Juvenille his 4th race of the year, I don't think he would have had any problem beating Wilko in the BC Juvenille.

I'm guessing that he was hurting by the time he got to the BC Juvenille. In addition, they waited awfully long before bring him back as a 3 year old. He didn't come back until Mach. I wonder if this was by choice. It probably was not. He probably had some type of injury and was not ready to run until March. I didn't like the way they brought him back on only two weeks rest after he won his first race back.

I just don't like the way they handled the horse. As I said before, if they only ran him 4 times as a two year old, I think he would have won the BC Juvenille. Not only that, but I think he would have come out of his 2 year old year unscathed and he would have probably been ready to go sooner as a 3 year old. Then they could have put him on a normal schedule instead of starting so late and having everything so rushed.

Yes, I have often wondered about the late start back as well. I have also wondered why in the world that they rushed Alex back to the track so quickly after he had that screw inserted and gave him such a quick workout. That, no doubt, did the horse in, but he might have been gone anyway. I liked the way that they trained him though. I think getting out of his stall two times a day helped him since the horses stabled at the tracks can't get out into the pastures to romp around. I don't think that this would work with every horse, or hardly any horse, but it actually may have helped hold Alex together as long as he stayed together. Thanks...your post makes sense as usual.