As expected Crist is the man about the girl

[Sightseek]

I really look forward to the next two months of whining about Rachel not being in the BC!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I really look forward to the next two months of whining about Rachel not being in the BC!

It's not whining...he's being the bitch here

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I really look forward to the next two months of whining about Rachel not being in the BC!

Would you like to see her race in the BC?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Would you like to see her race in the BC?

No.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

No.

Why not?

She has already won over the synthetic at Keeneland, pretty impressively by the way.

She will love Santa Anita also

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

No.

That is some logic that I will never understand.

Why because she may lose?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is some logic that I will never understand.

Why because she may lose?

She could lose on Saturday and I'd run her there anyway.

I don't understand the "it's the BC you must run" logic - and it's not like she is the only horse being withheld from the event.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

She could lose on Saturday and I'd run her there anyway.

I don't understand the "it's the BC you must run" logic - and it's not like she is the only horse being withheld from the event.

The BC is for the best horses to run against each other. Hell, the f'n Euro's try their turf horses on dirt/synthetic every single year, but this Jackson guy can't ship the best horse of 2009 out there.....

I still maintain that she will run in the BC, regardless of what he is saying. As you all have seen, the guy likes a 'story' and him repeating saying he isn't going to do it, then he says "For the good of the game and industry I am going to run RA in the BC Classic"

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

The BC is for the best horses to run against each other. Hell, the f'n Euro's try their turf horses on dirt/synthetic every single year, but this Jackson guy can't ship the best horse of 2009 out there.....

I still maintain that she will run in the BC, regardless of what he is saying. As you all have seen, the guy likes a 'story' and him repeating saying he isn't going to do it, then he says "For the good of the game and industry I am going to run RA in the BC Classic"

Scav Euro's go to Pro ride/Poly because their horses are equipped to handle it. Not because they are sporting the BC

[Danzig]

i'd probably run her. but i can't fault jess for not running her. hell, he's run her plenty, as did her previous owner. she's had a season with more starts than most do these days, and it's early september. as someone wrote a few weeks back, when does she tail off? you'd think at some point she'd get tired.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

She could lose on Saturday and I'd run her there anyway.

I don't understand the "it's the BC you must run" logic - and it's not like she is the only horse being withheld from the event.

But why wouldnt you want to see her run in the bc? She is the best horse in the country clearly. As a fan, why wouldnt you want to see her on the biggest stage?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

She could lose on Saturday and I'd run her there anyway.

I don't understand the "it's the BC you must run" logic - and it's not like she is the only horse being withheld from the event.

Why would you possibly NOT want to see her run and perhaps put all this zenyatta crap to rest once and for all? Just asking?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why would you possibly NOT want to see her run and perhaps put all this zenyatta crap to rest once and for all? Just asking?

I realize she isn't a 3-year-old, but I'd much rather have been able to see Zenyatta in the Hollywood Gold Cup or Pacific Classic.

The only great reason to want to see RA run in the Classic is from a gambling standpoint ... and it's so you can bet against her because she has very little shot of even hitting the Super hi 5 ticket in that absurd spot.

Who's to believe Jess Jackson though? Last year at this time he said he wasn't going to run Curlin in the Breeders Cup Classic. He caved. Why won't he cave again?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

No.

This isn't consistent with the legacy argument that Jackson has put fwd. Plus as I have been reminded here multiple times she did win at Keeneland on polytrack, pending what she does after the Woodward, why wouldn't you want to see her race against the best at SA? How can any fan of racing not want this to happen?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by CSC

This isn't consistent with the legacy argument that Jackson has put fwd. Plus as I have been reminded here multiple times she did win at Keeneland on polytrack, pending what she does after the Woodward, why wouldn't you want to see her race against the best at SA? How can any fan of racing not want this to happen?

Because people love dirt more than horse racing

[CSC]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Because people love dirt more than horse racing

Or people love speed, poly is more fair.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

Or people love speed, poly is more fair.

fair to who? it's fair based on what? there are horses who have drastic changes in ability from one surface to the other-but one is fair?

poly, in all it's brand names, is a different surface. it's not dirt, it's not turf, and ability on one of those two surfaces will not indicate ability on awt. there's no correlation, there's nothing you can draw from a performance on one of those surfaces to enable you to conclude how a horse will perform when moved to a different surface. it's not an equalizer.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Would you like to see her race in the BC?

Very much. But I'm willing to cut Jackson a lot of slack considering the spots he's already put Rachel in this year. Running her back on 2 weeks rest in the Preakness--many thought that was foolish. Then the Haskell and the Woodward.

Dare I say...he's done enough.

--Dunbar

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Very much. But I'm willing to cut Jackson a lot of slack considering the spots he's already put Rachel in this year. Running her back on 2 weeks rest in the Preakness--many thought that was foolish. Then the Haskell and the Woodward.

Dare I say...he's done enough.

--Dunbar

I'm not going to expound further on the topic since we went over this a month ago and my feelings haven't changed in regards to the BC - but I agree with your post above.