As expected Crist is the man about the girl

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Bob I hope you get one and I hope Chuck does as well. Let's dream.. You have you 3 year old filly machine you just won the logical Preakness, Haskell, Woodward. But the other champion is a turf mare are you going to the Turf Classic? Would you race a filly dirt horse on turf? Isn't Pro Ride NOT dirt the same way that Turf isnt dirt?

I would love to try RA on the turf too..why not Fred? If you have nothing to prove and it doesn't have any potential risk physically..go crazy with her. Obviously the 3 yr old and older dirt division horses are limited, so why not look outside the box for new challenges? If she runs 5th in the Arlington Million next year it won't hurt her breeding value at all.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Bob I hope you get one and I hope Chuck does as well. Let's dream.. You have you 3 year old filly machine you just won the logical Preakness, Haskell, Woodward. But the other champion is a turf mare are you going to the Turf Classic? Would you race a filly dirt horse on turf? Isn't Pro Ride NOT dirt the same way that Turf isnt dirt?

Why wouldnt you? What do you have to lose?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Bob I hope you get one and I hope Chuck does as well. Let's dream.. You have your 3 year old filly machine you just won the logical Preakness, Haskell, Woodward. But the other champion is a turf mare are you going to the Turf Classic? Would you race a dirt horse on turf? Isn't Pro Ride NOT dirt the same way that Turf isnt dirt?
It is not about loving dirt. I have zero issue with POLY actually I think it is fine for some tracks. I just demand that it be considered a separate surface. Why the BC peopel were foolish enough not to comprehend this is frustrating and the sole cause for confusion. I actually would rather watch RA on try turf. I wonder if she could be as special.

If Jackson wanted to get her ready for BC he would need to ship her to CA. after the Wodward then look for a spot to see if she handled the stuff. Tom and Chuck contention is she already handled the stuff...Against what type. I am sure she could win a 10 claiming on the turf does that mean she handles turf? You have a once in a generation horse shouldn't she go in the Beldame against Zenyatta. Shouldn't we all be pissed that the Moss's are denying Zenyatta an opportunity to prove her greatness. Zenyatta has earned the right to face RA. The Beldame would be an awesome spot for her and racing. Instead you want Jess to skip the Beldame, and start prepping for a surface switch or just sending her there work her once or twice and send her out. Chuck says who cares if she loses they all lose, which is 100% true but it seems silly and it is all because the BC and racing seems to think dirt and poly are interchangable.

Agreed!

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Please put down the bottle, take your mouth off the bong and explain.

it's not a bong, i just happened to grab a pen & a large bottle of pain pills in the same hand! (but i did note a few posters 'blowing smoke' in Crist's direction!) oooooooooooohhhh

[on top of my regular cardiovascular compromising (2 open heart surg...) genetic disease (and some/most here would say mentally "special"), i just got hit head-on in my chest by a mini van at high speeds while waiting for a red light.]
Rather than wonder how the hell i'm alive , i'd prefer to log on the internet under an alias, and project my jealous insecurities onto one of the classiest pros in this business. Any questions?

Ok that was weird. delete?

I didn't think my response was that cryptic

"The Woodward, a far better indicator of genuine quality than races on experimental surfaces where championship form is highly suspect..."- Crist

There simply wasn't a better race in North America than the Classic last year. Championship form couldn't have held up better in the race. 3 of world's best thoroughbreds ran their best race of the year. How great is that?

"Experimental" actually applies to Dubai's surface, as we haven't run on it yet. However for 6Million on a surface that most of the world's best horses can handle, we should expect one of the best DWCs in years.

The field for the woodward has 1 true Grade1 horse in Rachel, and the rest are uninspiring older division runners. No world's best in here to battle rachel. [please nobody find a race listed as grade1 that one of these pigs won, that isn't what i mean].

Honestly the Woodward isn't an alternative to the Classic or Dubai, so i don't really know why it is being compared, other than for HOY voting...

finally, yes the Travers was worse. After the fact it is pretty easy to acknowledge. None of the good horses besides Summer Bird got the distance and we saw an uncontested race. Kensei looked like a pumped up star miler, but he wasn't born to win the Travers. Nobody with a clue is really arguing that the Travers is better, at least not after the fact.

ok i have a date with a noisy MRI

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

it's not a bong, i just happened to grab a pen & a large bottle of pain pills in the same hand! (but i did note a few posters 'blowing smoke' in Crist's direction!) oooooooooooohhhh

[on top of my regular cardiovascular compromising (2 open heart surg...) genetic disease (and some/most here would say mentally "special"), i just got hit head-on in my chest by a mini van at high speeds while waiting for a red light.]
Rather than wonder how the hell i'm alive , i'd prefer to log on the internet under an alias, and project my jealous insecurities onto one of the classiest pros in this business. Any questions?

Ok that was weird. delete?

I didn't think my response was that cryptic

"The Woodward, a far better indicator of genuine quality than races on experimental surfaces where championship form is highly suspect..."- Crist

There simply wasn't a better race in North America than the Classic last year. Championship form couldn't have held up better in the race. 3 of world's best thoroughbreds ran their best race of the year. How great is that?

"Experimental" actually applies to Dubai's surface, as we haven't run on it yet. However for 6Million on a surface that most of the world's best horses can handle, we should expect one of the best DWCs in years.

The field for the woodward has 1 true Grade1 horse in Rachel, and the rest are uninspiring older division runners. No world's best in here to battle rachel. [please nobody find a race listed as grade1 that one of these pigs won, that isn't what i mean].

Honestly the Woodward isn't an alternative to the Classic or Dubai, so i don't really know why it is being compared, other than for HOY voting...

finally, yes the Travers was worse. After the fact it is pretty easy to acknowledge. None of the good horses besides Summer Bird got the distance and we saw an uncontested race. Kensei looked like a pumped up star miler, but he wasn't born to win the Travers. Nobody with a clue is really arguing that the Travers is better, at least not after the fact.

ok i have a date with a noisy MRI

I think you posted on the wrong site... Did you meant to post here
http://www.sympathy.com/

[Sightseek]

I really look forward to the next two months of whining about Rachel not being in the BC!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I really look forward to the next two months of whining about Rachel not being in the BC!

It's not whining...he's being the bitch here

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I really look forward to the next two months of whining about Rachel not being in the BC!

Would you like to see her race in the BC?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Would you like to see her race in the BC?

No.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

No.

Why not?

She has already won over the synthetic at Keeneland, pretty impressively by the way.

She will love Santa Anita also

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

No.

That is some logic that I will never understand.

Why because she may lose?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is some logic that I will never understand.

Why because she may lose?

She could lose on Saturday and I'd run her there anyway.

I don't understand the "it's the BC you must run" logic - and it's not like she is the only horse being withheld from the event.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

No.

This isn't consistent with the legacy argument that Jackson has put fwd. Plus as I have been reminded here multiple times she did win at Keeneland on polytrack, pending what she does after the Woodward, why wouldn't you want to see her race against the best at SA? How can any fan of racing not want this to happen?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by CSC

This isn't consistent with the legacy argument that Jackson has put fwd. Plus as I have been reminded here multiple times she did win at Keeneland on polytrack, pending what she does after the Woodward, why wouldn't you want to see her race against the best at SA? How can any fan of racing not want this to happen?

Because people love dirt more than horse racing

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Would you like to see her race in the BC?

Very much. But I'm willing to cut Jackson a lot of slack considering the spots he's already put Rachel in this year. Running her back on 2 weeks rest in the Preakness--many thought that was foolish. Then the Haskell and the Woodward.

Dare I say...he's done enough.

--Dunbar

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Very much. But I'm willing to cut Jackson a lot of slack considering the spots he's already put Rachel in this year. Running her back on 2 weeks rest in the Preakness--many thought that was foolish. Then the Haskell and the Woodward.

Dare I say...he's done enough.

--Dunbar

I'm not going to expound further on the topic since we went over this a month ago and my feelings haven't changed in regards to the BC - but I agree with your post above.

[Smooth Operator]

Asiatic Boy, that is


Sharp in his first start in the country while spotting Macho five pounds

Came back with a good effort going ten

Yeah, he missed the Whitney cuz of fever ... but has thrown a couple nice works at Toga since.

Trainer good with layoff horses

Took a longer race in Dubai carrying 126


1. Asiatic Boy
2. Macho Again




"Down goes [Rachel]"

[hockey2315]

Asiatic Boy will not only need Rachel to fall over, but several other horses to fall over to have a shot.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Asiatic Boy will not only need Rachel to fall over, but several other horses to fall over to have a shot.

Are you kidding me, didn't you see how he gamely dug in for second in the Suburban after putting away Finallymadeit?

After reading the post about how Asiatic Boy was going to win, I felt like Allicansayis How?

NT

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Are you kidding me, didn't you see how he gamely dug in for second in the Suburban after putting away Finallymadeit?

After reading the post about how Asiatic Boy was going to win, I felt like Allicansayis How?

NT

You have to wonder what Da'Tara is doing in here, is he here to set the pace for Cool Coal Man not that it makes any difference with RA's tactical speed or if he can even make it there.