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Old 08-27-2009, 01:37 PM
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LOL, Hold Me Back really liked that Off track at the Derby. Tomlinsons aren't all they are cracked up to be.

Anyone who is using the derby to determine if Hold Me back can handle dirt/slop does not have a clue about handicapping. It was one of the biggest premature moves I HAVE EVER SAW.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:40 PM
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Anyone who is using the derby to determine if Hold Me back can handle dirt/slop does not have a clue about handicapping. It was one of the biggest premature moves I HAVE EVER SAW.
Got it.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:55 PM
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Anyone who is using the derby to determine if Hold Me back can handle dirt/slop does not have a clue about handicapping. It was one of the biggest premature moves I HAVE EVER SAW.
Anyone that cites a Tomilinson number as his sole reason for moving a horse up in slop (three days before the race is run) has less of a clue about handicapping.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:01 PM
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I am ashamed to admit this but I bet Hold Me Back in the Derby...never again. The horse is too slow for horses like this. Hes got no appeal whatsoever in this race. I think hes the easiest throw out of them all. By far the slowest horse in this race with not one good angle I can see to make him worthy of a stab.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:03 PM
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I am ashamed to admit this but I bet Hold Me Back in the Derby...never again. The horse is too slow for horses like this. Hes got no appeal whatsoever in this race. I think hes the easiest throw out of them all. By far the slowest horse in this race with not one good angle I can see to make him worthy of a stab.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT HANDICAPPING!
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:50 PM
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Anyone that cites a Tomilinson number as his sole reason for moving a horse up in slop (three days before the race is run) has less of a clue about handicapping.
Its not the sole reasson... I said he should like the slop, she asked why and I said why.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:53 PM
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Exactly what other reason would you have for why the horse "should really like an off track" then?
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:59 PM
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Exactly what other reason would you have for why the horse "should really like an off track" then?

His Derby was not nearly as bad as anyone thinks... AT LEAST HE RAN.... It was premature but he made a huge MOVE. Im not even touting him, but for people to toss him cause of the Derby is A HUGE MISTAKE.
Maybe Im totally wrong, FatMan, Im sure can comment on his Derby trip.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:03 PM
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Its not the sole reasson... I said he should like the slop, she asked why and I said why.
I dont think he has any chance to even finish 3rd if all 7 go. But I would bet the horse if you really think you have an angle. Although I doubt very much the track will be anything close to sloppy. Do you like him at all if its fast?
Dont let what you read on a message board keep you from making a bet on a certain horse.

I think you have a much better chance of cashing a ticket on your guy Quality Road. He will at least be the prominent throughout the race.

A horse in here who I have never bet or been a fan of is very interesting and appealing to me- Charitable Man. For once, you are going to get a fair price on him and the goal all along was to win this race. From what I have heard he is doing better than ever and in my opinion at around 5/1, hes the best value in the race.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:04 PM
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I dont think he has any chance to even finish 3rd if all 7 go. But I would bet the horse if you really think you have an angle. Although I doubt very much the track will be anything close to sloppy. Do you like him at all if its fast?
Dont let what you read on a message board keep you from making a bet on a certain horse.

I think you have a much better chance of cashing a ticket on your guy Quality Road. He will at least be the prominent throughout the race.

A horse in here who I have never bet or been a fan of is very interesting and appealing to me- Charitable Man. For once, you are going to get a fair price on him and the goal all along was to win this race. From what I have heard he is doing better than ever and in my opinion at around 5/1, hes the best value in the race.
five to one?!
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:05 PM
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five to one?!
Who are you?
Are you that famous writer?
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:14 PM
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five to one?!
What do you think hes going to be? Higher? I hope so.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:40 AM
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What do you think hes going to be? Higher? I hope so.
He'll be close to double that unless the barn (I'm assuming) goes psycho on him like they did last time.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:05 PM
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I dont think he has any chance to even finish 3rd if all 7 go. But I would bet the horse if you really think you have an angle. Although I doubt very much the track will be anything close to sloppy. Do you like him at all if its fast?
Dont let what you read on a message board keep you from making a bet on a certain horse.

I think you have a much better chance of cashing a ticket on your guy Quality Road. He will at least be the prominent throughout the race.

A horse in here who I have never bet or been a fan of is very interesting and appealing to me- Charitable Man. For once, you are going to get a fair price on him and the goal all along was to win this race. From what I have heard he is doing better than ever and in my opinion at around 5/1, hes the best value in the race.
My pick 4 will mostly lean on QR, I will use WR a little, a backup very thin with the 1.
If you like CM, dont you have to like WR?
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:15 PM
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I dont think he has any chance to even finish 3rd if all 7 go. But I would bet the horse if you really think you have an angle. Although I doubt very much the track will be anything close to sloppy. Do you like him at all if its fast?
Dont let what you read on a message board keep you from making a bet on a certain horse.

I think you have a much better chance of cashing a ticket on your guy Quality Road. He will at least be the prominent throughout the race.

A horse in here who I have never bet or been a fan of is very interesting and appealing to me- Charitable Man. For once, you are going to get a fair price on him and the goal all along was to win this race. From what I have heard he is doing better than ever and in my opinion at around 5/1, hes the best value in the race.[/QUOTE

My pick 4 will mostly lean on QR, I will use WR a little, a backup very thin with the 1.
If you like CM, dont you have to like WR?
Yup, they pretty much ran the same race last time. Wouldnt be surprised if either wins. Like CM better though.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:17 PM
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Yup, they pretty much ran the same race last time. Wouldnt be surprised if either wins. Like CM better though.

I love QR and have talked him up big time. If he does not get it done, I will really need the Warrior.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:42 PM
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Mine That Bird would have loved this
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