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Old 08-25-2009, 04:24 PM
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Grass sprints are a new thing in NY so NY based public handicappers have been at a bit of a loss where they are concerned. because I also follow mid Atlantic racing regularly (where turf sprinting has been popular for many years) I feel I did pretty well over the last 2 seasons at the Spa.
The grass sprint "division" is very broad but very shallow so horse go from claiming to stakes all the time and at Saratoga, alot of the "class handicappers" could simply not see how Lake and Klesaris could come from Laurel or Delaware with horse last in for $35k and beat NY based allowance stock.
Linda had alot of grass bred sprinters and as soon as they started running them, she started entering. her horses are VERY well gate schooled and the break is all important in turf sprints, esp at 5 1/2, where the turns come up fast.
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:34 PM
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Linda had alot of grass bred sprinters and as soon as they started running them, she started entering. her horses are VERY well gate schooled and the break is all important in turf sprints, esp at 5 1/2, where the turns come up fast.
I have my own theories when it comes to turf sprints. IMO, it essentially comes down to footwork. The better the footwork, the better the horse runs.

It would be interesting to discuss this with someone like Rice and get her take on it.
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:45 PM
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Her numbers this year are better with routers than sprinters on both surfaces.

Turf:

Sprint: 19-for-74 ($2.16 ROI)

Route: 8-for-20 ($5.72 ROI)


Dirt:

Sprint: 26-for-110 ($2.07 ROI)

Route: 5 for 15 ($2.48 ROI)


Total:

Sprint: 45 for 184 (24%) $2.10 ROI

Route: 13-for-35 (37%) $4.33 ROI

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Old 08-25-2009, 07:36 PM
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Rice had Silver Timber running in a turf dash for 25K and Chad Brown picks him up and he wins the Grade III Jaipur in 107:3 three months later. Seems strange that Rice who is the Turf sprint wizard would let this one get away. Maybe she got some of whatever Chad used on Silver Timber for her stock at the Spa.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:36 PM
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Rice had Silver Timber running in a turf dash for 25K and Chad Brown picks him up and he wins the Grade III Jaipur in 107:3 three months later. Seems strange that Rice who is the Turf sprint wizard would let this one get away. Maybe she got some of whatever Chad used on Silver Timber for her stock at the Spa.

Apparently the horses footwork has blossomed under Mr Brown... Fat Man you kill me with this footwork nonsense.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:46 PM
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Apparently the horses footwork has blossomed under Mr Brown... Fat Man you kill me with this footwork nonsense.
Doubtful you have ANY clue what I talking about AND clearly you're not too gifted when it comes to picking winners (or having an opinion in general). Yet, it's always a pleasure reading all your "insider" comments.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:59 PM
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Doubtful you have ANY clue what I talking about AND clearly you're not too gifted when it comes to picking winners (or having an opinion in general). Yet, it's always a pleasure reading all your "insider" comments.

Bro you pick winners is 5 horse fields and pat yourself on the back. You think trainers teach fansy footwork. If so maybe Sherriffs could work on Zenyatta..lol You must love that action???? What do you think its friggin ballet lessons in the morning. You think because you can identify a horse with a fuild stride that is willing to change leads on demand that this makes you special.. If it did trainers wouldnt have to train they would simply watch horses and just bet the good movers.. Go watch Easy Goers action vs. Sunday Silience.. to completely different actions yet both extremely fast. Sunday Silience was "nibble" so what he wasn't faster. Maybe Shug should have sent him for more dance lessons.
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