Cash for Clunkers Success

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I am seriously clueless as to what you guys (Cannon, Dell, Zig) want done fiscally by any administration in power now. How about this:

No healthcare reform at all, no new programs at all.

Ignore the recession/depression, zero government interference.

That leaves us with the massive debt we were saddled with by Bush. How shall we pay for it? Income tax increases?

I believe we have stated what we want but you obviously havent comprehended any of it.

What you simply dont get is that the information that you quote is generally spoonfed without regard for reality. Healthcare reform isnt going to do anything positive for the economy and will almost assuredly become a huge, unsustainable govt disaster. The ironic part about the deficit is that even though Bush did a poor job with it, Obama is putting us so far further in debt that Bush will look like a miser soon. Spending money that one doesnt have isnt the answer to our problems either individually or as a country. Massive debt, huge govt, rising inflation...How is this going to end well?

The fact is that special interest groups rule the roost as usual and all of the things that you see as progress are absolutely the opposite. Obama is a anti-business, pro govt leftist. He is basically a cleaned up version of Hugo Chavez.

[Riot]

I believe we have stated what we want but you obviously havent comprehended any of it.

Naw. Pretty much all you've stated is that you don't like anything Obama does. Your answer is just more of the same. Obama compared to Hugo Chavez

Please - go ahead and state how YOU think the administration (any administration) should deal with the economy now.

What you simply dont get is that the information that you quote is generally spoonfed without regard for reality. Healthcare reform isnt going to do anything positive for the economy and will almost assuredly become a huge, unsustainable govt disaster.

You are really good at disparaging anything you don't like (and the people that post it), yet you repeatedly fail to show anything that supports your argument.

So please, go ahead and support any of the contentions you've made above, using any argument other than something like, "If you can't see that you're stupid".

The most important concern regarding health care reform are fixing the massive consumer abuses present in the system now, and providing quality healthcare to all Americans in my book. Is cost the most important consideration to you?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Naw. Pretty much all you've stated is that you don't like anything Obama does. Your answer is just more of the same. Obama compared to Hugo Chavez

Please - go ahead and state how YOU think the administration (any administration) should deal with the economy now.



You are really good at disparaging anything you don't like (and the people that post it), yet you repeatedly fail to show anything that supports your argument.

So please, go ahead and support any of the contentions you've made above, using any argument other than something like, "If you can't see that you're stupid".

The most important concern regarding health care reform are fixing the massive consumer abuses present in the system now, and providing quality healthcare to all Americans in my book. Is cost the most important consideration to you?

Perhaps you arent familiar with Chavez but Obama has many policies similar to what Venezuela has.

What is funny is that I always give reasons and post links that support my position. You simply repeat what politicians say.

According to you the most important concern regarding healthcare is massive consumer abuses. If this is so why wouldn't changes in the law deal with these issues? There have been plenty occasions where consumers were taken advantage of that didnt preclude a massive govt takeover.

Is cost most important? What costs? The costs that the country will suffer with govt healthcare? My costs?

You feel that this will reduce overall costs because Obama says it will. But Obama is a politician trying to construct a legacy. He will say ANYTHING to get this through. The fire behind that smoke that we are seeing but you are ignoring is tax increases to the non-rich along with further taxes on the usual targets. Social Security, medicare, medicade, the postal system, Amtrack, Fanny Mae, Freddy Mac, etc. all govt institutions that can not support themselves yet dont go away. Why wouldn't govt healthcare go down the same path?