Vikings Love in Vegas

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Worst post of 2009

Dixie, get off of sniper's computer.

Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Dixie, get off of sniper's computer.

Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?

They'd have made the playoffs with Sage Rosenfels at QB and probably still will do so when Favre is done by Week 8.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

They'd have made the playoffs with Sage Rosenfels at QB and probably still will do so when Favre is done by Week 8.

Entertaining press conferences and announcer compliments don't count in leagues, just wins and numbers. Expectations for Favre aren't that different than they would have been for Sage Rosenfels.

Ultimately, they are both high completion quarterbacks that throw too many interceptions. The Vikings should remain a run-first team, and Favre's pass attempts could drop while throwing to an average receiver group.

Plus there's the tiny concern that Favre is turning 40, hasn't worked out with a team all offseason, and couldn't convert deep passes last year.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Entertaining press conferences and announcer compliments don't count in leagues, just wins and numbers. Expectations for Favre aren't that different than they would have been for Sage Rosenfels.

Ultimately, they are both high completion quarterbacks that throw too many interceptions. The Vikings should remain a run-first team, and Favre's pass attempts could drop while throwing to an average receiver group.

Plus there's the tiny concern that Favre is turning 40, hasn't worked out with a team all offseason, and couldn't convert deep passes last year.

shouldn't any mention of brett and last year come with the tag line '...with the jets'?

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Danzig

shouldn't any mention of brett and last year come with the tag line '...with the jets'?

Why should it?
His last 4 years.....88 TD's and 84 Int's. He had an exceptional 2007 season, but no way he's going to repeat that....

88-84. Is just showing what trend Favre is heading.

You don't think that Favre playing hurt the 2nd half of the season contributed to the Jets downfall last season? His receivers are better than the ones he's going to play with anyways.

Now this.....Citing a medical source, Profootballtalk.com reports that Brett Favre's partially torn rotator cuff has a good chance to worsen.

"Cleared to play does not mean 'cleared to play well,'" the source said. "He's at high risk (for greater tearing) both because of trauma and his style of play. He's going to stress his cuff." Favre has looked good in practices to this point, but this is a reminder that he may not be hitting on all cylinders.

Now after that said, I can be one of the first to tell you that not to trust Profootballtalk.com, but confirms that part of my suspicions say that Favre will not be anymore better than what Rosenfels offers.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Why should it?
His last 4 years.....88 TD's and 84 Int's. He had an exceptional 2007 season, but no way he's going to repeat that....

88-84. Is just showing what trend Favre is heading.

You don't think that Favre playing hurt the 2nd half of the season contributed to the Jets downfall last season? His receivers are better than the ones he's going to play with anyways.

Now this.....Citing a medical source, Profootballtalk.com reports that Brett Favre's partially torn rotator cuff has a good chance to worsen.

"Cleared to play does not mean 'cleared to play well,'" the source said. "He's at high risk (for greater tearing) both because of trauma and his style of play. He's going to stress his cuff." Favre has looked good in practices to this point, but this is a reminder that he may not be hitting on all cylinders.

Now after that said, I can be one of the first to tell you that not to trust Profootballtalk.com, but confirms that part of my suspicions say that Favre will not be anymore better than what Rosenfels offers.

i don't think just favre contributed to their skid in the latter half of the season. i also think that the line, and the receiving corps very much makes a Qb.
i will not make the argument that favre is one of the best out there anymore, but i would definitely argue he's better by far then what the vikes already had.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think just favre contributed to their skid in the latter half of the season. i also think that the line, and the receiving corps very much makes a Qb.
i will not make the argument that favre is one of the best out there anymore, but i would definitely argue he's better by far then what the vikes already had.

Um, I hate to break it to you but the Jets had one of the best O-Lines in football.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Would you like to wager on whether or not they make the playoffs? 50 dollars?

What's my tab with you? $100? I'll bet $80 against that $100 that the Packers win at least as many games as the Vikings this year. If you want we can split it up into two $40 against $50 bets and you can placate your Cutlerboner and have the Bears against the Packers in the second bet.

Aaron Rodgers > Bret Favre > Rex Grossman > Jay Cutler

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

What's my tab with you? $100? I'll bet $80 against that $100 that the Packers win at least as many games as the Vikings this year. If you want we can split it up into two $40 against $50 bets and you can placate your Cutlerboner and have the Bears against the Packers in the second bet.

Aaron Rodgers > Bret Favre > Rex Grossman > Jay Cutler

You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Scav

You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?

Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.

The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Scav

The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late

A 3-4 defense is dependent on a stud nose tackle. I think BJ Raji can be that guy. Even if Nick Barnett isn't back 100% this year they will still have a good defense, if he comes back strong they could be really good.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Scav

The Packers will be decent this year, only because their offense is awesome. That alone will keep them in games, but their defense is very questionable. A completely new system without a bunch of rocket scientists, where I expect them to get better later in the season, but it will be too late

Tom...it might be questionable....but they look very good defensively so far. I think there question mark is the running game. It wouldn't surprise me if they take the division. It also wouldn't surprise me if the Vikes fall to 3rd.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Tom...it might be questionable....but they look very good defensively so far. I think there question mark is the running game. It wouldn't surprise me if they take the division. It also wouldn't surprise me if the Vikes fall to 3rd.

IT IS THE PRESEASON.

Personally, I think Packers and Bears fans love the fact that the Vikings got Favre, the Bears have owned him in his late years, and the Packers game will be epic because that defense is going to be so fired up, and Favre, regardless of what he says, wants to beat them BAD!!

So what I wanted to say was that I think Favre will do more harm then good

[3kings]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.

The Capers factor is legit, the defence will be much improved. I think Rogers will have a big year with this division going down to the wire.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yes, and I think the Packers are going to be very good this year. Aaron Rodgers looks really good this preseason and I think he's going to have a great year this year finally having an offseason knowing that he was the man. They had 7 losses by 4 points or less last year which is tied for the second most in NFL history. Most of that was on the defense but expect their defense to be vastly improved this year with Dom Capers. First year with Dom Capers as defensive coordinator:

1992 - Pittsburgh - improved from 22nd to 2nd
1999 - Jacksonsville - improved from 17th to 1st
2006 - Miami - improved from 15th to 5th

If he can improve the Packers from the 22nd defense to the 14th that already turns 4 of those 7 losses into wins and makes them a 10 win team. If he does more than that and the offense improves it could be an 11 or 12 win team.

Defense wound up #2 in the NFL. Capers is a miracle worker.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Defense wound up #2 in the NFL. Capers is a miracle worker.

soft schedule sniper they are not that good

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by gales0678

soft schedule sniper they are not that good

lol...gimme a break Marty. They are as good as anyone not named San Diego in the NFL right now. Have you even watched them play outside of the Monday night loss to Minny?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by gales0678

soft schedule sniper they are not that good

No softer than Minnesota or Arizona and they are quite good. Maybe not AFC good but definitely could win the NFC.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Scav

You think the Packers are going to have more wins then the Bears?

Do you watch football?

good Comedy..........not to pick on you Tom but this thread has some classic stuff in it. Really I just bumped this for Dahla who has bumped it every week, I'm just saving her the trouble.