8/13: Saratoga (Day 14; $52k C/O)

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

This is true, but the main thing is I don't see any of her horses making large jumps in form which I think is the bigger question surrounding certain trainers.

she was just under 20% at the recent belmont meet , she had a total of 11 winners the entire spring meet at belmont - 3 + month meet , now she has 9 winners in less the 3 weeks up here at the spa .....come on if this was pletcher or dutrow or c brown almost matching their win total in less than 3 weeks vs an entire meet at belmont this place would be full of chatter....

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

she was just under 20% at the recent belmont meet , she had a total of 11 winners the entire spring meet at belmont - 3 + month meet , now she has 9 winners in less the 3 weeks up here at the spa .....come on if this was pletcher or dutrow or c brown almost matching their win total in less than 3 weeks vs an entire meet at belmont this place would be full of chatter....

Look at her winners:

Ahvee's Destiny - Got loose in a turf sprint and was a stakes winner over the Mellon turf before. (7/2)

Awakino Cat - Exited two decent turf sprints at Monmouth and benefited from a perfect trip. (9-1)

Gentle Ride - Got loose in a very weak maiden claimer dropping from MSW races. (2-1)

Good Prospect - Received a perfect trip coming off a win against comparable company. (7-1)

Fort McCoy - Exited a rough trip 5th at Belmont and had things go his way. (7-1)

Tahoe Warrior - Coming back on short rest off a poor effort sprinting he also got a perfect trip going long and benefited when the favorite received an uncharacteristically bad ride from Ramon Dominguez. (10-1)

Karakorum Legend - Capitalized on a lone E trip against a suspect field as the chalk. (5/2)

Willsboro Point - Received a cushy pace-setting trip against a bad field (5/2).

Mother Russia - Another wire-to-wire winner against a horrible field (2-1).

The common thread among these winners is that they were all relatively short prices and most benefited from great trips pace-wise. I really think she's getting the most out of her horses right now and things will definitely even out soon.

She had 11 winners at Saratoga in 2007 including a 6-10 run during closing week, so it's not like this is unprecedented.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Look at her winners:

Ahvee's Destiny - Got loose in a turf sprint and was a stakes winner over the Mellon turf before. (7/2)

Awakino Cat - Exited two decent turf sprints at Monmouth and benefited from a perfect trip. (9-1)

Gentle Ride - Got loose in a very weak maiden claimer dropping from MSW races. (2-1)

Good Prospect - Received a perfect trip coming off a win against comparable company. (7-1)

Fort McCoy - Exited a rough trip 5th at Belmont and had things go his way. (7-1)

Tahoe Warrior - Coming back on short rest off a poor effort sprinting he also got a perfect trip going long and benefited when the favorite received an uncharacteristically bad ride from Ramon Dominguez. (10-1)

Karakorum Legend - Capitalized on a lone E trip against a suspect field as the chalk. (5/2)

Willsboro Point - Received a cushy pace-setting trip against a bad field (5/2).

Mother Russia - Another wire-to-wire winner against a horrible field (2-1).

The common thread among these winners is that they were all relatively short prices and most benefited from great trips pace-wise. I really think she's getting the most out of her horses right now and things will definitely even out soon.

She had 11 winners at Saratoga in 2007 including a 6-10 run during closing week, so it's not like this is unprecedented.

NT

so she wins 11 races in a 3 month meet and now has 9 winners in less than 3 weeks ....am i to believe if pletcher or dutrow did this miraculous feat and almost matched their spring belmont meet winners in less than 3 weeks that there wouldn't be an artice in the drf about what is going on here .... you can talk about all the perfect trips you want , i am to beleive that that her horses faced stronger fields and had bad trips at belmont and are now facing weaker fields and getting good trips in every race???

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

so she wins 11 races in a 3 month meet and now has 9 winners in less than 3 weeks ....am i to believe if pletcher or dutrow did this miraculous feat and almost matched their spring belmont meet winners in less than 3 weeks that there wouldn't be an artice in the drf about what is going on here .... you can talk about all the perfect trips you want , i am to beleive that that her horses faced stronger fields and had bad trips at belmont and are now facing weaker fields and getting good trips in every race???

Why does it have to be so black and white? Why can't you read into the intricacies of each one of these wins and realize that plenty of things have gone right to allow this to happen?

How about this for odd, she has only had 11 horses finish in the money. She's just getting all the breaks right now.

When was the last time there was an article in the DRF about Pletcher or Dutrow doing anything improper anyway? Pletcher has had weeks on end that were as successful as Rice's run so far and the only thing it's been is Todd being Todd.

She is placing her horses well, they're on the turf just about every day (something that's essential for her success), and she's getting good breaks.

If you prefer the "she's winning a lot so she has to be cheating" line then have at it. At least suggest that she drop off some of whatever she's using at Rusty Arnold, Kenny McPeek, and Bruce Levine's barns.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Why does it have to be so black and white? Why can't you read into the intricacies of each one of these wins and realize that plenty of things have gone right to allow this to happen?

How about this for odd, she has only had 11 horses finish in the money. She's just getting all the breaks right now.

When was the last time there was an article in the DRF about Pletcher or Dutrow doing anything improper anyway? Pletcher has had weeks on end that were as successful as Rice's run so far and the only thing it's been is Todd being Todd.

She is placing her horses well, they're on the turf just about every day (something that's essential for her success), and she's getting good breaks.

If you prefer the "she's winning a lot so she has to be cheating" line then have at it. At least suggest that she drop off some of whatever she's using at Rusty Arnold, Kenny McPeek, and Bruce Levine's barns.

NT

certainly TOFP winning at GP you remember created a firestorm at DRF from none other than Andy Beyer ....

[Gander]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Why does it have to be so black and white? Why can't you read into the intricacies of each one of these wins and realize that plenty of things have gone right to allow this to happen?

How about this for odd, she has only had 11 horses finish in the money. She's just getting all the breaks right now.

When was the last time there was an article in the DRF about Pletcher or Dutrow doing anything improper anyway? Pletcher has had weeks on end that were as successful as Rice's run so far and the only thing it's been is Todd being Todd.

She is placing her horses well, they're on the turf just about every day (something that's essential for her success), and she's getting good breaks.

If you prefer the "she's winning a lot so she has to be cheating" line then have at it. At least suggest that she drop off some of whatever she's using at Rusty Arnold, Kenny McPeek, and Bruce Levine's barns.

NT

That only applies to guys like Dutrow and Levine. Linda Rice is the Saratoga darling, one must never accuse the woman in black of cheating. If she wins this many, its legit. But Dutrow and Levine tear a meet apart and the book is thrown at them...guilty until proven innocent. The Saratoga darling is getting it done the clean way. Shes got live horses this meet.

Shame on you Gales.