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08-09-2009, 11:08 PM
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Anyone else think it won't play a part in reducing the amount of gas used by Americans? Join coach's club of f'n brilliance. 
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08-09-2009, 11:13 PM
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Guess what vehicles are still eligible to be bought in this program? Yukons, Hummers and Suburbans. So much for less gas being used.
The real problem with this program is that its just taking away sales that figured to happen 6 months or a year or two down the line. So we'll see a short term jump in auto sales but in 2010 they will fall again. Right in time for us to re-enter a recessionary period again.
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08-10-2009, 01:07 AM
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http://www.edmunds.com/cash-for-clun...-vehicles.html In all situations involved, there WILL be gas saved. You can't trade a light truck (or a car) in to buy a Hummer. You would have to trade something in that's even worse than a Hummer. It can't cost more than 45k. You must upgrade your mpg, and/or efficiency(cleaner.) Don't you think people trading in a heavy SUV are going to be more interested in saving $4500 on a 20k car than on a 44k truck? Remember that the value of what your trading in is gunna be more likely to be worth less if it's smaller than the types you mentioned. Think about what you're saying. O.K.? If you have some massive SUV from the 90's, you can save 20-25% off the price of a car, or 10% off of the price of another big gas guzzler(one that's not quite as wasteful as the one you're trading in.) All the incentive is aimed at trading in that big SUV for something with much better gas mileage. If you want to only save 10% on the price, then be my guest. You gunna rush to do that? If you do, it's still a small savings in gas. They are not gunna give you a $4500 discount if you don't improve the gas efficiency(if you only save slightly on the mpg, you'll also only save about 10% on the price of something big like that.) New car has to cost less than 45k. Min. Fuel Economy for New Vehicle Passenger Car =22 mpg ..to get $3500 voucher need 4 mpg Mileage improvement....for $4500 voucher need an improvement of 10 mpg min. fuel economy for Light-Duty Truck (under 6k lbs)= 18 mpg..to get $3500 voucher need 2 mpg Mileage improvement....for $4500 voucher need an improvement of 5 mpg min fuel economy for Large Light-Duty Trucks(6k - 8.5k lbs)= 15 mpg..to get $3500 voucher need 1 mpg Mileage improvement....for $4500 voucher need an improvement of 2 mpg Commercial trucks(8.5k - 10k lbs)= n/a Trade-in must be at least pre-2002 Last edited by SCUDSBROTHER : 08-10-2009 at 01:28 AM.
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08-10-2009, 06:54 AM
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08-10-2009, 07:39 AM
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Even if you have something as bad on gas as a Hummer, the model of Hummer you could buy has to cost less than 45k. Why would you want 10% off ($4500 of 45k) of something when you can get 20-25% off of a car that costs 18-25k? You can see the list Dell put up. They trading in big trucks n' SUVs, but buying 25 mpg cars(not Hummers.) They probably allow people to trade in something big(poor mpg) to buy something big (only a little tiny improvement in mpg) because it allows people a lot of freedom to do what they want, but all the incentives are naturally encouraging them to buy something smaller. You want to pay 40k for a lousy Hummer model, or pay 15-20k for a 20-25k priced car? It's your choice, but only if you've got something from the 90's as bad on gas as a Hummer. People aren't gunna be able to trade a '99 Monte Carlo in for a $4500 voucher towards a Hummer. They have to buy something 10 mpg better than the Monte Carlo (if they want the $4500.)
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08-10-2009, 08:56 AM
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Dur. It's like I'm talking to someone smoking bones. Last edited by Coach Pants : 08-10-2009 at 10:13 AM.
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08-10-2009, 01:44 PM
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