8/8 (SAR): Whitney (G1); Test (G1)

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

For a one-run plodder who needs a perfect setup to be even remotely successful, I thought he got his setup and ran his race.

I have no idea what's making you think he was much the best.

NT

I think what Bobby meant to say was he was third best.why does Wolfson even try to win races in NY?? Steve please let him know there is a D barn in these parts.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I think what Bobby meant to say was he was third best.why does Wolfson even try to win races in NY?? Steve please let him know there is a D barn in these parts.

I don't know Freddy, don't you think she ran pretty well given the break and the trip to Union Avenue on the turn?

By the way, raise your hand if you thought the final time was as sharp as it was in the Test?

NT

[King Glorious]

What do the Hollywood Gold Cup, Met Mile, Donn, Foster, and Whitney have in common? They are probably five of the six biggest races we've had in this country for older male routers this year so far. All were won by a horse winning their first and only grade one race. I said five of the six. The sixth would be the Santa Anita Hcp. That race was won by Einstein, who was just seen running in the Arlington Million because he's a grass horse. This is as bad as I've ever seen this division.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

What do the Hollywood Gold Cup, Met Mile, Donn, Foster, and Whitney have in common? They are probably five of the six biggest races we've had in this country for older male routers this year so far. All were won by a horse winning their first and only grade one race. I said five of the six. The sixth would be the Santa Anita Hcp. That race was won by Einstein, who was just seen running in the Arlington Million because he's a grass horse. This is as bad as I've ever seen this division.

I'd love to know what the average win mutuel in graded stakes for older males has been this year. I'm sure it's very high. The pretty pony people will probably disagree, but I'll take full fields and bettable races over four-horse public workouts any day.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

What do the Hollywood Gold Cup, Met Mile, Donn, Foster, and Whitney have in common? They are probably five of the six biggest races we've had in this country for older male routers this year so far. All were won by a horse winning their first and only grade one race. I said five of the six. The sixth would be the Santa Anita Hcp. That race was won by Einstein, who was just seen running in the Arlington Million because he's a grass horse. This is as bad as I've ever seen this division.

The winners of the HGC and the Met are pretty good. I would guess Bribon and Rail Trip both will win Grade 1's in the future.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The winners of the HGC and the Met are pretty good. I would guess Bribon and Rail Trip both will win Grade 1's in the future.

They may. Especially Rail Trip. But that won't change the fact that this is a pathetic year for the division.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The winners of the HGC and the Met are pretty good. I would guess Bribon and Rail Trip both will win Grade 1's in the future.

I would book that regarding Bribon. I think he's phenomenally average and this year's rendition of the Met was one of the worst I've ever seen.

Think of this, since the Met Mile this is what the 2-3-4 finishers have come back to do:

Smooth Air- 2nd at 7/5 in Salvatore Mile, 7th in Whitney

Driven by Success- Pounded by Munnings in the Tom Fool, 2nd against NY breds in John Morrissey

My Pal Charlie- badly beaten 3rd in the Cornhusker at Prairie

I suppose Bribon is likely to get his next opportunity in a race that he can win in the Cigar Mile but I'd still bet against him winning a GI.

NT

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

What do the Hollywood Gold Cup, Met Mile, Donn, Foster, and Whitney have in common? They are probably five of the six biggest races we've had in this country for older male routers this year so far. All were won by a horse winning their first and only grade one race. I said five of the six. The sixth would be the Santa Anita Hcp. That race was won by Einstein, who was just seen running in the Arlington Million because he's a grass horse. This is as bad as I've ever seen this division.

I actually think Rail Trip will move up huge if he ever gets to real dirt...of course 10 furlongs might be a stretch but I think the Met would be his ideal race.

[randallscott35]

NY times a day EARLY for Motion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/ny...l?ref=nyregion

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I actually think Rail Trip will move up huge if he ever gets to real dirt...of course 10 furlongs might be a stretch but I think the Met would be his ideal race.

I don't know if he'd move up or down but I do think he's a very good horse. Very good. I think he's going to win some more big races too. What I was trying to get at is that this year, the division is so weak that it's wide open for the pickings. It used to be that the winners of the big handicap races were holdovers from the previous year's older horses and 3yos. They had usually won a couple of other big races. This year, all of them, save for the Big Cap, have been won by horses winning their first grade one.

[Gander]

Did you guys catch how uninspired and unimpressed Durkin was when Bullsbay made that scintillating move on the turn? If it were any other horse, he would have went nuts. But he simply said "Bullsbay moves into 3rd". That was very un-Durkin like. Here is a pretty sloppy edition of the Whitney and one horse gives him the chance to make a neat call, but for some reason he doesnt jump on it. Very strange call. Maybe he thought the "pre-mature move" as some are calling it, was just that.