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Old 08-06-2009, 12:59 AM
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Dynaforce is dangerous... Watch her last 2 trips, both wide with no cover.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:16 AM
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That Aga Khan horse doesn't look impressive to me! Her races aren't much, but Ill be reading the form on the flight over and I'm sure I'll have a reason to like her by the time I arrive!! Any guesses on what Mad About You will be sent off at? I think she'll love the States!
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:24 PM
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That Aga Khan horse doesn't look impressive to me! Her races aren't much, but Ill be reading the form on the flight over and I'm sure I'll have a reason to like her by the time I arrive!! Any guesses on what Mad About You will be sent off at? I think she'll love the States!
conservatively 3-1 7-2, but hopefully more. She is strong and there are many scenarios that fit her. Lets say Tizqueena goes out to a clear lead, your gal can outmove Points of Grace and hold off the closers. She is probably even good enough to just attack the leader slightly prematurely and end the race early. If Points of Grace and Dominguez manage to break on top, Tizqueena may be forced up on the pace and again it sets up nicely.
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:32 PM
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I don't see Ramon putting Points of Grace right on the lead, but maybe the connections will instruct him to do so because she ran so big last time.
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:57 PM
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I don't see Ramon putting Points of Grace right on the lead, but maybe the connections will instruct him to do so because she ran so big last time.


I thought jockeys don't matter?
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:54 PM
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I thought jockeys don't matter?
They don't make horses better/worse.
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:19 PM
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They don't make horses better/worse.

A few jockeys move horses up.... Ramon especially.
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:53 PM
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conservatively 3-1 7-2, but hopefully more. She is strong and there are many scenarios that fit her. Lets say Tizqueena goes out to a clear lead, your gal can outmove Points of Grace and hold off the closers. She is probably even good enough to just attack the leader slightly prematurely and end the race early. If Points of Grace and Dominguez manage to break on top, Tizqueena may be forced up on the pace and again it sets up nicely.
i knew that trip would get there(especially seeing races 6 and 7 to gauge the turf), unfortunately wrong mare. Tough trip for Mad About You but she wasn't best today anyway.
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:54 PM
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I think there's a new horse in the race for Horse of the Year as well.
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:00 PM
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I think there's a new horse in the race for Horse of the Year as well.
Gio Ponti? Great horse, I really like him, but turf horses don't win HOTY unless they're named John Henry.

Realistically, Rachel has this about wrapped up.
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:01 PM
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They could try the synthetic Classic if they want to go for HOY
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:02 PM
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Gio Ponti? Great horse, I really like him, but turf horses don't win HOTY unless they're named John Henry.

Realistically, Rachel has this about wrapped up.
I agree.

But Gio Ponti is the hottest horse on the lawn right now (did I just state the obvious? ).
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:09 PM
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Gio Ponti? Great horse, I really like him, but turf horses don't win HOTY unless they're named John Henry.

Realistically, Rachel has this about wrapped up.
I agree and you're right, but there are a lot of things that could happen between now and then not just for him, but Rachel as well. Lots of ifs, but it's interesting none-the-less.
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:10 PM
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Gio Ponti? Great horse, I really like him, but turf horses don't win HOTY unless they're named John Henry.

Realistically, Rachel has this about wrapped up.
Or Kotashaan or All Along.
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:14 PM
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I think there's a new horse in the race for Horse of the Year as well.
HOY is a longshot for him because of the two girls but he's probably locked up the grass male title and with the BC being on synthetic, what if he were to win the Goodwood and Classic. When is the last time a horse won older male and grass championships in the same year? John Henry?
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Old 08-08-2009, 06:32 PM
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HOY is a longshot for him because of the two girls
The way I see it:

Rachel Alexandra: 4 G1 wins (Female beating males 2x trumps all)
Gio Ponti: 4 G1 wins
Zenyatta: 1 G1 1 win, 1 G2 win

Zenyatta has lots of catching-up to do for mid-August.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:36 AM
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LOL
One of the guys that hang out at the track with us tried giving me that line last Friday.

LOLZ.

Unless we magically time warp back to 2008 halfway down the backstretch, she'll be lucky to finish 4th. Wide trip is not exactly an excuse in the Modesty....considering it produced the easiest winner of the Preview races.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:41 AM
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Agree 100% on Dynaforce. She's just not much horse, regardless of trip. The fact that she's a G1 winner is amazing.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:44 AM
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One of the guys that hang out at the track with us tried giving me that line last Friday.

LOLZ.

Unless we magically time warp back to 2008 halfway down the backstretch, she'll be lucky to finish 4th. Wide trip is not exactly an excuse in the Modesty....considering it produced the easiest winner of the Preview races.
I realize she has sucked, but even with Mott/Kent she will still be a price. I think she is worth using in the pick 3, to me it's a spread race.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:34 PM
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I realize she has sucked, but even with Mott/Kent she will still be a price. I think she is worth using in the pick 3, to me it's a spread race.
I'm 5 deep and Dynaforce is not on my ticket....
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