Cocoa Beach Had To Come Down

[VOL JACK]

If Dee Tee owned her instead of GODolphin, she would have came down.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

If Dee Tee owned her instead of GODolphin, she would have came down.

But they never would have got us out of the winner's circle.

[PatCummings]

And why do the stewards care more about Godolphin horses than any other? Foolish logic. How many of you on here have had conversations with stewards, ever?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

And why do the stewards care more about Godolphin horses than any other? Foolish logic. How many of you on here have had conversations with stewards, ever?

Love it when people pull the "talk to the stewards" rank game...As if a fan can't watch a race and have an opinion on whether an infraction was made. You're silly indeed....Open question on the connections, about 3 years ago, a Shug horse had to be taken down to a Goldberg horse in an allowance sprint. It wasn't even close. He stayed up. Always seems to be connections make a difference.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Love it when people pull the "talk to the stewards" rank game...As if a fan can't watch a race and have an opinion on whether an infraction was made. You're silly indeed....Open question on the connections, about 3 years ago, a Shug horse had to be taken down to a Goldberg horse in an allowance sprint. It wasn't even close. He stayed up. Always seems to be connections make a difference.

And I love it when people pull the "so and so owns a horse and the stewards LOVE them, so there's no way they take that horse down..."

I'm not suggesting you talk to the stewards about the incident, just wondering if you have ever been privy to a discussion with a steward about any DQ and things they look for.

In a takedown, there is always a winner and always a loser - for connections and bettors. It is patently absurd to think the stewards play favorites to owners...where would it end?

Phipps
IEAH
Shadwell
Godolphin
Barry Schwartz
Repole
Winning Move
Karakorum

All that having been said, I believe racing jurisdictions should require stewards to explain the rationale for their decisions as is done...oh...everywhere ELSE in the horse racing world save the US and Canada.

[CSC]

The precedent has been set let's just hope they remain consistent the entire meet. Evidence CV's ride on City Sneakers today.

[Gander]

If Cocoa Beach got taken down, that would have set a bad precedent for turf racing, especially in bug fields. Bumping and shifting in happens all the time and if she were to have come down, you could easily make a case for about 1/3rd of all turf races run with big fields. Horses losing momentum happens all the time in this type of race.

I think a better case could have been made if it happened closer to the line and there werent another horse who came in on Cocoa Beach setting a chain reaction.

A similar type inquiry happened last summer with Frankel's Country Star winning by a very small margin in a race on the turf. There was a claim of foul against her, and she didnt come down. The incident happened right before the wire and a good case could have been made for her to come down, but it was after all a heavy favorite trained by a very popular trainer. I cant believe people dont think who the horse is trained by/owned by has nothing to do with the decision.

How about Todd Pletcher's Miss Catalyst not coming down in the 1st on Sunday? That was about as textbook as a DQ can get.