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[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Dell..if someone's view of the Middle East disagrees with yours, does that mean they have no understanding of the Middle East?

And no...this is not a Steven Wright joke..

only if they agree ending a six day war, transferring the oil rich Sinai Peninsula from Israel to Egypt, the Egyptian leader assassinated 3 yrs later, the Israeli leader resigning 5 yrs later while American's waited for odd or even days to get gas while we provided defense aid to both is the result of 'understanding' and then coming to the conclusion Israel is the worse perpetrator of human rights abuse, worse than Rwanda on earth. (just to keep on subject) lol

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

only if they agree ending a six day war, transferring the oil rich Sinai Peninsula from Israel to Egypt, the Egyptian leader assassinated 3 yrs later, the Israeli leader resigning 5 yrs later while American's waited for odd or even days to get gas while we provided defense aid to both is the result of 'understanding' and then coming to the conclusion Israel is the worse perpetrator of human rights abuse, worse than Rwanda on earth. (just to keep on subject) lol

Good thing I never said anything like that, right, Dell?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Good thing I never said anything like that, right, Dell?

I was answering Bob's post you said,

"Obama has a strong interest in, and understanding of, the myriad of complexities involving the various countries in the middle east. Tribal relations, power struggles, economics, historic, religious, etc. Carter had (and has) the same. Both "get it" - that it's an incredibly complicated, multi-layered area of the world."

I just have a problem with what 'get it' means I guess? Of course I never got Clinton's 'is' either.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I was answering Bob's post you said,

"Obama has a strong interest in, and understanding of, the myriad of complexities involving the various countries in the middle east. Tribal relations, power struggles, economics, historic, religious, etc. Carter had (and has) the same. Both "get it" - that it's an incredibly complicated, multi-layered area of the world."

I just have a problem with what 'get it' means I guess? Of course I never got Clinton's 'is' either.

That both men realize that it's an incredibly complicated, multi-layered area of the world? Realizing that there are tribal and familial relations that superceed country borders, or the complexities of the various religious affiliations, etc. Caring about educating oneself about such things, and being cognizant of such, is a very good thing, in my book. That's an interest that Bush II distinctly lacked (although Bush I had it)

That doesn't have anything to do with whether the individual policies or decisions of those men will be or were successes or failures.

And I believe that discussion stemmed from "Obama is a secret Muslim" talk. I think Obama's exposure to the Muslim religion through his father, as a child, is an excellent thing on his resume.

I also don't think all Muslims are terrorists.

[dellinger63]

I get it now and for the first time in weeks agree.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I get it now and for the first time in weeks agree.

Shiat. Does that mean I have to buy you a beer or something?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Shiat. Does that mean I have to buy you a beer or something?

not at Arlington