Stauffer's call of the 6th tonight.

[docicu3]

I can't wait for Vic's last call at Hollywood Park only then will we likely see how creative this guy can really be.......

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by docicu3

I can't wait for Vic's last call at Hollywood Park only then will we likely see how creative this guy can really be.......

Hopefully that doesn't happen for a very long time.

[Chalky]

Whenever I bet Rosario at Hollywood Park, which I do quite often, I damn sure know where my horse stands throughout the race.

Vic is probably human and does concentrate a bit more on Rosario than others, and how could he not? He does have a vested interest in the success of one horse over the others, and like anyone in that situation, you tend to keep an eye on that horse and the trip he's getting.

If people are noticing this, and I believe those who watch Hollywood everyday are, then Hollywood has to make a decision whether or not this is a significant problem. The problem not being Vic, but the problem allowing announcers to be jock's agents.

Others on this forum have rightly alluded to announcers wagering on a race and thereby having a conflict as well. While I agree, it would seem much easier for them to "mask" this conflict, as there allegiance changes from race to race, and is not focused on one jockey (or trainer, for that matter).

And announcers do have lots of friends at the track, especially announcers such as Vic.

So I guess individual tracks have to decide on their own what to do with each of these "conflicts", keeping in mind that many (such as gambling on the races) are not enforceable (the announcer would just have a friend make the wager like jockeys do).

For me, I would not allow the announcer to be a jocks agent as well. I think I would be setting the track, and my announcer, up to criticism. Our sport has enough perceived conflicts surrounding it with the general public.....

Excellent post, Chalky.

[rontheman1964]

Hey wait a minute....if Vic can indeed influence the outcome of races with his race calls....we are all missing out on a golden opportunity to become incredibly wealthy. Vic just has to let us know who he will be favoring in his calls and we will all be camped out in the cashier's line.

See how absurd this thread is???? Nuff said.....

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Hey wait a minute....if Vic can indeed influence the outcome of races with his race calls....we are all missing out on a golden opportunity to become incredibly wealthy. Vic just has to let us know who he will be favoring in his calls and we will all be camped out in the cashier's line.

See how absurd this thread is???? Nuff said.....

lol it is kind of hilarious to imagine the kind of call a race announcer would give if his sole intention was to shout alerts and advice to his jockey.

[eajinabi]

If Vic is betting a race, is it a rule that he must bet on Rosario only?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

lol it is kind of hilarious to imagine the kind of call a race announcer would give if his sole intention was to shout alerts and advice to his jockey.

Absurb or not Rosario is a better rider statistically at Hollywood Pk than he is at Santa Anita or Delmar. Let's examine his record the last 3 meets:

Hol - 301 67 = 22.25% (excluding today's card)
SA - 537 83 = 15.46%
Del - 254 36 = 14.17%

Perhaps it's coincidental but interesting nevertheless, maybe he likes Vic's pipes.

[HaloWishingwell]

I'm still waiting for as rallying Roasrio and the call of "get that f^%king horse out of his way!" leading to "die you co*%sucking frontrunner!"

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Hey wait a minute....if Vic can indeed influence the outcome of races with his race calls....we are all missing out on a golden opportunity to become incredibly wealthy. Vic just has to let us know who he will be favoring in his calls and we will all be camped out in the cashier's line.

See how absurd this thread is???? Nuff said.....

I will say one thing, the discussion may or may not be absurd......but your post certainly qualifies as such.

Originally Posted by Chalky

Whenever I bet Rosario at Hollywood Park, which I do quite often, I damn sure know where my horse stands throughout the race.

Vic is probably human and does concentrate a bit more on Rosario than others, and how could he not? He does have a vested interest in the success of one horse over the others, and like anyone in that situation, you tend to keep an eye on that horse and the trip he's getting.

If people are noticing this, and I believe those who watch Hollywood everyday are, then Hollywood has to make a decision whether or not this is a significant problem. The problem not being Vic, but the problem allowing announcers to be jock's agents.

Others on this forum have rightly alluded to announcers wagering on a race and thereby having a conflict as well. While I agree, it would seem much easier for them to "mask" this conflict, as there allegiance changes from race to race, and is not focused on one jockey (or trainer, for that matter).

And announcers do have lots of friends at the track, especially announcers such as Vic.

So I guess individual tracks have to decide on their own what to do with each of these "conflicts", keeping in mind that many (such as gambling on the races) are not enforceable (the announcer would just have a friend make the wager like jockeys do).

For me, I would not allow the announcer to be a jocks agent as well. I think I would be setting the track, and my announcer, up to criticism. Our sport has enough perceived conflicts surrounding it with the general public.....

Maybe he would actually concentrate on Rosario less, knowing that others know he is Rosario's agent. I personally believe Bob Griese did this when calling his sons games.

What is interesting to me is how many people actually listen to the call. My speakers are out on one computer and I actually dont like hearing the call on most races that I am looking back at. Personally, I only like the call live. On review, I find it distracting.