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View Poll Results: Is being a jockey's agent and a track announcer a conflict of interest
yes 40 28.37%
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:26 PM
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Is there a need for two threads on this?
Yes. I want it put to a vote and last time I checked you didn't show up on the mod list.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:33 PM
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I say no. Watch any baseball game and the team has its own set of biased announcers. Until his call is impacting the results of the race I couldn't care less if the announcer has a dog in the fight.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:35 PM
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I say no. Watch any baseball game and the team has its own set of biased announcers. Until his call is impacting the results of the race I couldn't care less if the announcer has a dog in the fight.


Name an announcer who is an agent.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:39 PM
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Name an announcer who is an agent.
Why would that make a difference? The announcer can't impact the results of the race so why would I care what other job the announcer has. This is silly, this is a sport where the owners, trainers, and jockeys are fully allowed to bet AGAINST their own horses. If we want to talk about conflict of interest isn't that the big one?
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:43 PM
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Why would that make a difference? The announcer can't impact the results of the race so why would I care what other job the announcer has. This is silly, this is a sport where the owners, trainers, and jockeys are fully allowed to bet AGAINST their own horses. If we want to talk about conflict of interest isn't that the big one?
That's news to me.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:44 PM
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That's news to me.
What is possibly stopping them?
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:49 PM
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Jockeys are certainly not legally allowed to bet against the horses they are riding. I believe owners and trainers can bet whoever they want.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:50 PM
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What is possibly stopping them?
http://www.chrb.ca.gov/policies_and_...ules6-2006.pdf

"1971. Wagering by Jockey or Driver.

"No jockeys or drivers shall make any wagers, or have any wagers made in their behalf, in any race in which they participate, except through the owners or trainers on the horses which they ride or drive.
Any owners or trainers wagering for such jockeys or drivers shall maintain records of all such wagers and all other presents or other gratuities given any jockeys or drivers. Such records will be furnished to the stewards or the Board or its investigators upon demand.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:31 PM
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Name an announcer who is an agent.
I'm almost positive that Richard Grunder has Willie Martinez's book in Tampa. Bigs can verify.
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:30 PM
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Conflict of Interest? Would an example of that be when threads about certain people get closed, and threads about others don't get closed?
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:18 PM
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Wow,

Quite a day for Vic & Joel
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:22 PM
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