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Old 07-04-2009, 07:58 AM
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Sorry... While everyone is entitled to the occasional outburst or angry reply, this a very disappointing response from an industry professional given the measured tone of Pete's original post. You are in a slightly awkward position holding book and calling, and acknowledging that there is a race where you occasionally cross the line is only going to win you the understanding of viewers. The above is an Albert Belle-esque antic, and only demonstrates that you recognize you were overly cognizant of Rosario's spot in the race.
Really?

Am I the only one here that didn't take Vic's response seriously?

While the original post may have been "measured", it was completely over the top and put forth with the intent to elicit a response from Vic. He got one. I laughed. Apparently you, and others, don't see it that way.

Let's not forget where we are. Vic didn't say bite me in Bloodhorse or on TVG/HRTV, he said it on an internet message board.

I'd prefer to see honesty and emotion here from our "industry professionals", rather than the company line.
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:02 AM
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^^^^

What Bigs said.
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:07 AM
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:14 AM
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This is not the first time Vic has been accused of this. I'm sure it gets old quickly. I applaud his honest reaction.
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:15 AM
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Really?

Am I the only one here that didn't take Vic's response seriously?

While the original post may have been "measured", it was completely over the top and put forth with the intent to elicit a response from Vic. He got one. I laughed. Apparently you, and others, don't see it that way.

Let's not forget where we are. Vic didn't say bite me in Bloodhorse or on TVG/HRTV, he said it on an internet message board.

I'd prefer to see honesty and emotion here from our "industry professionals", rather than the company line.
It's one thing if you or I had that response, but I think those in the public eye have to be a bit more mindful of their actions. To me, his response said he didn't give a crap what I or you, the customer, think about the product.
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:45 AM
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It's one thing if you or I had that response, but I think those in the public eye have to be a bit more mindful of their actions. To me, his response said he didn't give a crap what I or you, the customer, think about the product.
In this case I'm all right with that.
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:54 AM
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This thread is ridiculous. The guy recognized the winner on the turn and called the race accordingly. It just happened to be his jock that was on this horse, but he has done it repeatedly with other horses. I watch nearly every race at Hollywood, and to suggest there is a bias is fairly ridiculous. He is over the top with almost every horse that makes a big move, regardless of jock, and his over the top calls is what makes him so good.

And to have issue with his response is probably more ridiculous. He didn't curse, he didn't personally attack anybody, he in a sense made what I think most people took as a joke. To piggyback on what somebody else said, this is an internet message board, he didn't make the comment in a more professional setting. At what point is he allowed to just be himself? If he can't say whatever he feels like on an internet message board, then that is pretty sad.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:32 AM
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Really?

Am I the only one here that didn't take Vic's response seriously?

While the original post may have been "measured", it was completely over the top and put forth with the intent to elicit a response from Vic. He got one. I laughed. Apparently you, and others, don't see it that way.

Let's not forget where we are. Vic didn't say bite me in Bloodhorse or on TVG/HRTV, he said it on an internet message board.

I'd prefer to see honesty and emotion here from our "industry professionals", rather than the company line.
Please......Stauffer was basically telling me to F#ck off. IF he was on TVG and I called in and made the same comment to me he would be fired on the spot by Hollywood. Part of being in the spotlight is acting professional and handling fan's criticism. If my comment was so out of line he would have laughed it off and in a professional way responded. Instead he acted like a a little kid. I obviously hit a nerve and he somewhat agrees with me.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:32 AM
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Really?

Am I the only one here that didn't take Vic's response seriously?

While the original post may have been "measured", it was completely over the top and put forth with the intent to elicit a response from Vic. He got one. I laughed. Apparently you, and others, don't see it that way.

Let's not forget where we are. Vic didn't say bite me in Bloodhorse or on TVG/HRTV, he said it on an internet message board.

I'd prefer to see honesty and emotion here from our "industry professionals", rather than the company line.
Exactly, it was laugh out loud funny and while it may not have been worthy of addressing a court room or formal hearing it was a short, to the point way of saying "I disagree" which loses the levity it produced.

The guy has been perpetually hearing this nonsense about the ethical compromise of representing Rosario from the first day it was announced. He went to his bosses and got their blessing yet he still has to hear these clairvoyant crumudgeons criticize the intentions of every race call that Rosario is involved in over and over. At some point a more colorful reaction to this same lame point is warranted. When the guy posts here I hope he is looked at as off the clock if not there is another discussion to be had.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:44 AM
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Don't you people have anything better to talk about?This whole thread is ridiculous.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:47 AM
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Exactly, it was laugh out loud funny and while it may not have been worthy of addressing a court room or formal hearing it was a short, to the point way of saying "I disagree" which loses the levity it produced.

The guy has been perpetually hearing this nonsense about the ethical compromise of representing Rosario from the first day it was announced. He went to his bosses and got their blessing yet he still has to hear these clairvoyant crumudgeons criticize the intentions of every race call that Rosario is involved in over and over. At some point a more colorful reaction to this same lame point is warranted. When the guy posts here I hope he is looked at as off the clock if not there is another discussion to be had.

His bosses are lame ducks as is Vic. They all could give two Shiits as the place is DONE.. All Victoria(since we can all act like children) had to do was respond in some sort of professional manner. Something like Pete I call them the way I see them or Pete I will keep it in mind as sometimes the the heart gets in the way of the head would have sufficed. Instead we got Pete I am losing my job in a few months nobody is going to hire me to call races which I love and because of that I have lost my friggin mind and tell folks who are making reasonable points to F off..

Remember I think Vic is pretty dam good but apparently keeping his head in the game has escaped him..
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