6/20 (CNL): Colonial Turf Cup (G2); All Along (G3)

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Alan07

The only thing hotter than the racing will be the weather
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...st?query=23124

IF that forecast is correct for saturday, it will be NASTY, even in the shade. we were at the 2006 Va. Derby (Go Between-winner) on a day like that. it was fun day and colonial puts on a good show but it was HOT.

[Linny]

Todd is a "classic American trainer" in that he is very "dirt centric." Panty Raid notwithstanding, his moes to turf (or debuting onturf) usually mean he doesn't think he has a serious dirt stakes horse. Once the triple crown is past, it's open season. Still, when I see him go "first turf" with a horse that was on the Derby Trail I see him as fishing for something the horse can do well.
I don't think Take the Points is a "no-hoper." If he wins or runs well I wont be shocked, but I don't think he's a strong win candidate. Unless Al Khali is a different animal on turf I can't see him as a strong contender. I'd rather look for a lightly raced horse with grass breeding and minimal PP's and a bigger price because he never ran against 'Mousse et al.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Linny

Todd is a "classic American trainer" in that he is very "dirt centric." Panty Raid notwithstanding, his moes to turf (or debuting onturf) usually mean he doesn't think he has a serious dirt stakes horse. Once the triple crown is past, it's open season. Still, when I see him go "first turf" with a horse that was on the Derby Trail I see him as fishing for something the horse can do well.
I don't think Take the Points is a "no-hoper." If he wins or runs well I wont be shocked, but I don't think he's a strong win candidate. Unless Al Khali is a different animal on turf I can't see him as a strong contender. I'd rather look for a lightly raced horse with grass breeding and minimal PP's and a bigger price because he never ran against 'Mousse et al.

You think Panty Raid could run a step on dirt? Has Phil got to you already? She was a terrible dirt horse that lucked into a typically bad Black Eyed Susan.

[Linny]

PR was a modest, possibly G3 class filly that got lucky with the situation and ran the biggest race of her life in the most important race of her life.
As stated, I tend to think of Todd on turf as more an act of desperation than planning.

[Travis Stone]

Take the Points not only failed to flatter himself, but Choclate Candy and Mr. Hot Stuff did a number on that reputation as well.

I don't see how Take the Points offers any sort of value at anything less than 8-1, if that.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

IF that forecast is correct for saturday, it will be NASTY, even in the shade. we were at the 2006 Va. Derby (Go Between-winner) on a day like that. it was fun day and colonial puts on a good show but it was HOT.

I'm probably the only person who loves this kind of weather.

40% chance of afternoon thundershowers now - I hope it doesn't hit like last year!

[jms62]

Am I the only one that loves Tejada at 12-1?

[hockey2315]

Miguel?

[NTamm1215]

It's a good thing there were 14 entered in the turf sprint because there are nine scratches.

NT

[CSC]

I guess Castellano likes Criticism's chances more than Lime Rickey's, on paper he's the most likely winner abit surprising he's not making the trip when this race is twice the money.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

I guess Castellano likes Criticism's chances more than Lime Rickey's, on paper he's the most likely winner abit surprising he's not making the trip when this race is twice the money.

I wouldn't read into that very much. He has three graded stakes wins on Criticism this year and an allowance win on Lime Rickey. He also needs to maintain his relationship with Darley/Godolphin, especially after the piss poor rides he gave Music Note and Tam Lin last weekend.

NT

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It's a good thing there were 14 entered in the turf sprint because there are nine scratches.

NT

That's amazing.