Keeneland September Sale

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May

1050k for a Distorted Humor x Emotional Outburst

(half to Roar Emotion)

This sale is cwwwwwaaaaaazzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyyy

Actually I think everything is going fairly 'cheap' for the select portion of the sale and there are a lot of RNA's.

[Round Pen]

Man First Year I have missed the sale in quite some time

Darn Wisdom Teeth

[sumitas]

haha, you have saved some money then

and Secretariat had 3 socks

[Sightseek]

The half to High Cotton by Giant's Causeway went for 1.9M.

[sumitas]

Seeking the Gold does not sire sound horses a lot of the time. They win, but don't last long, in general.

Originally Posted by sumitas

Seeking the Gold does not sire sound horses a lot of the time. They win, but don't last long, in general.

The Flitabout clan is notorious for unsoundness... but if you took the ill-fated Ruffian out of it, do you think it would be talked about even half as much? Just curious... im not sure it would.

[Betsy]

Balletto, would you classify Empire Maker and Mineshaft as disappointments? Mineshaft did eh, especially w/o the $950,00.00 and I thought EM's would sell for much higher......thoughts?

[sumitas]

That clan came to Ruffian by way of Reviewer, who had soundness problems himself. That clan is the family of Seeking The Gold and many G1 winners. It has a poor reputation for soundness for a reason, I'm afraid.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Balletto

The Flitabout clan is notorious for unsoundness... but if you took the ill-fated Ruffian out of it, do you think it would be talked about even half as much? Just curious... im not sure it would.

You mean Ruffian via her sire Reviewer, who wasn't the soundest horse (only managed 13 starts in 3 campaigns, in a era when that was one year's work for many), right? Reviewer's champion sister Queen of the Stage had a similar record. But some other foals of their dam Broadway seem to be sounder (Great White Way, Will Hays) and Flitabout's own foals look to have been fairly sturdy. I'd be inclined to fault Reviewer's sire Bold Ruler more than Flitabout, since he had his share of soft horses out of stoutish mares (compare Boldnesian with half-sister Princessnesian).

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

You mean Ruffian via her sire Reviewer, who wasn't the soundest horse (only managed 13 starts in 3 campaigns, in a era when that was one year's work for many), right? Reviewer's champion sister Queen of the Stage had a similar record. But some other foals of their dam Broadway seem to be sounder (Great White Way, Will Hays) and Flitabout's own foals look to have been fairly sturdy. I'd be inclined to fault Reviewer's sire Bold Ruler more than Flitabout, since he had his share of soft horses out of stoutish mares (compare Boldnesian with half-sister Princessnesian).

That was more or less my point... Ruffian is hailed as the best there ever was in her gender and there's been a ton of pedigree discussion about how her sire, Reviewer, and his family are the "culprits". I was just bringing up the point that if you took Ruffian out of the equation, the family wouldnt be looked at as anything but "usual" in the soundness department.