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Old 06-12-2009, 07:47 PM
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Boy, that answers my Carter question perfectly.
Yes, I don't want to buy into the distraction of pulling off onto another topic.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:08 PM
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Yes, I don't want to buy into the distraction of pulling off onto another topic.
You were the one who brought up Carter. As a person who gets it and when I try to point out what actually he 'gets' you want to consider it another topic. If you're comparing Obama's foreign policy finesse to Carter I think the beliefs Carter 'spewed' during that interview are very relative, scary and dangerous.
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You were the one who brought up Carter. As a person who gets it and when I try to point out what actually he 'gets' you want to consider it another topic. If you're comparing Obama's foreign policy finesse to Carter I think the beliefs Carter 'spewed' during that interview are very relative, scary and dangerous.
Yes, I brought up Carter, and in the original post I said why, and above I repeated why (twice) and it has nothing to do with what you are talking about.

No, I'm obviously not comparing Obama's foreign policy finesse to Carter. No, I'm not talking about Carter's beliefs.

You go right ahead
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Yes, I brought up Carter, and in the original post I said why, and above I repeated why (twice) and it has nothing to do with what you are talking about.
You said and I quote ""Obama has a strong interest in, and understanding of, the myriad of complexities involving the various countries in the middle east. Tribal relations, power struggles, economics, historic, religious, etc. Carter had (and has) the same. Both "get it"

I then pointed out what Carter 'gets' as you would say and I quoted his interview on hardball,

"CARTER: So the persecution of the Palestinians now, under the occupying territories—under the occupation forces—is one of the worst examples of human rights deprivation that I know. And I think it‘s—

SHUSTER: Even worse, though, than a place like Rwanda?

CARTER: Yes. I think—yes. You mean, now?


SHUSTER: Yes.

CARTER: Yes.

SHUSTER: The oppression now of the Israelis—of the Palestinians by the Israelis is worse than the situation in Africa like the oppression of Rwanda and the civil war?

CARTER: I‘m not going back into ancient history about Rwanda, but right now, the persecution of the Palestinians is one of the worst examples of human rights abuse I know, because the Palestinians—

SHUSTER: You‘re talking about right now, you‘re not talking about say, a few years ago.

CARTER: I‘m not talking about ancient history, no.

SHUSTER: Rwanda wasn‘t ancient history; it was just a few years ago.

CARTER: You can talk about Rwanda if you want to. I want to talk

about Palestine. What is being done to the Palestinians now is horrendous

in their own territory, by the occupying powers, which is Israel."

See how it fits together now? I'm not talking about what you may perceive or hope Carter's view on Isreal is or was after reading his books. I'm repeating what Carter said his view was and simply asking whether you agree?
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