NBA Championship: Lakers Vs. Magic

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

What has been interesting to me is that the Lakers still don't play really good defense. They have the athletes and for stretches, they play it as well as anyone. But they seem to get bored with it and don't know how to commit on that end of the floor. Everyone thinks that the Laker defense broke down in game three and that's why the Magic shot so well. I don't agree. The defense was the same as it was in game one. The Magic get whatever shot they want to get out on the perimeter. They were as wide open in game three as they had been in games one and two. They just made the shots this time. That's what game four will come down to. Will they make the shots or miss them. They will get them though. The Magic that is. He's got to make quicker moves once he gets the ball. He can't keep putting it on the floor and allowing the double team to get there because once he commits to a move, he's predictable. He has no counter moves. He has been effective at kicking it out to his shooters though so I give him credit there. That's the way this team has to play; inside-out. Not the other way around. They can't get too enamored with the three and forget to go inside because that's what opens up their perimeter game. I think the Lakers would be better surved putting Bryant on Turkoglu and Ariza on Alston. I'd start Odom and put him on Lewis. Gasol is going to have guard Howard and that could get him in foul trouble but the same works on the other end. The reasoning is because I think you want to cut a team off at the head and having your two best defenders on their two primary ballhandlers would completely disrupt their offense. On the other end, the Laker offense has to be more diverse. I understand that Kobe Bryant is one of the great players in the history of the game. I understand that he has an ability to score that is second to none. But he's got to recognize when his teammates have it going and he doesn't HAVE to take over. It's one thing when those guys aren't on their game and Kobe has to bail them out. But that wasn't the case in the last game. Kobe took 25 shots last game. He was 8-11 at one point and finished 11-25 so he went 3 of his last 14. Meanwhile, Gasol was 9-11 and Odom was 4-6. They were a combined 13-17. Gasol is shooting 62% in this series. Odom is shooting 65%. You've got to use those guys. Gasol is a guy that should have been second-team all league and arguably could have been first team and he's getting 11 shots and only averaging 12.3 shots in the finals? That's just not enough. Kobe's had 81 shots in the series (27 a game) while those two guys have 63 (21 a game). When you have an obvious advantage and don't use it, what's the point. One thing that the Lakers are doing that I really love is getting the ball into the post on the strong side with Kobe on that side. That keeps his man from being able to drop off and double-team cause you aren't going to double off of Kobe. By doing this, you are getting great looks for Gasol down low. Use him. Make Howard work on the defensive end. Run some more isolation for Odom. Nobody on that team can come close to guarding him. The Lakers are the superior team but the way they are playing is keeping Orlando in it.

Maybe , just maybe Phil Jackson will read this and make the adjustments , i sure hope he does

[SniperSB23]

Did people see these numbers for game winning or tying shots?

http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

In the last 6 years Kobe is 14 for 56 with 5 turnovers and 1 assist.

The clutch stats are pretty interesting too, Lebron's production per 48 minutes in clutch time is 55.9 points, 14.3 rebounds, and 12.6 assists.

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Did people see these numbers for game winning or tying shots?

http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

In the last 6 years Kobe is 14 for 56 with 5 turnovers and 1 assist.

The clutch stats are pretty interesting too, Lebron's production per 48 minutes in clutch time is 55.9 points, 14.3 rebounds, and 12.6 assists.

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

Interesting stuff

http://www.82games.com/0809/ROLRTG8.HTM

I like this rating system where Delonte west is rated the 35th best player in the NBA and Trevo Ariza is ranked 89th. That should rev Dala up into insult mode.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Interesting stuff

http://www.82games.com/0809/ROLRTG8.HTM

I like this rating system where Delonte west is rated the 35th best player in the NBA and Trevo Ariza is ranked 89th. That should rev Dala up into insult mode.

As far as this "ratings" system, its hard for me to give credibility to any "system" that rates Andre Kirilenko or Ray Allen higher than Chris Bosh, Carmello Anthony or Tim Duncan...to name a few.

Yeah, A little hole in the credibility department with me.

All i know is that Trevor Ariza has been written about in almost every major publication in the country. Delonte? Well...he didnt even make the TNT gone fishin picture. A shame...i would have loved to have gotten your check in the mail.

[dalakhani]

By the way Chuck, I miss you on here with the hoops thing. If i promise to simply agree with everything you say, will you post more?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

By the way Chuck, I miss you on here with the hoops thing. If i promise to simply agree with everything you say, will you post more?

At least you would be right more often...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

At least you would be right more often...

Certainly about horses.

Sports? Bring the donuts and the coffee...

[timmgirvan]

Magic won't shoot 62% again, so Lakers will get the title.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Magic won't shoot 62% again, so Lakers will get the title.

They also won't shoot 30% again like in game one. The point is that they are getting the same shots each game. The Laker defense is doing nothing to challenge them. It's simply a matter of make them and stay in the game or miss them and fall out of it. They won't 62% again but they won't do 30% again either.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

They also won't shoot 30% again like in game one. The point is that they are getting the same shots each game. The Laker defense is doing nothing to challenge them. It's simply a matter of make them and stay in the game or miss them and fall out of it. They won't 62% again but they won't do 30% again either.

No they won't shoot 30% but the fact remains that even shooting 62% they were life and death to beat the lakers at home down 2-0. Regardless of the perimeter defense, the magic still can't get easy shots and i mean shots in the paint. You can't win a series like that.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

As far as this "ratings" system, its hard for me to give credibility to any "system" that rates Andre Kirilenko or Ray Allen higher than Chris Bosh, Carmello Anthony or Tim Duncan...to name a few.

Yeah, A little hole in the credibility department with me.

All i know is that Trevor Ariza has been written about in almost every major publication in the country. Delonte? Well...he didnt even make the TNT gone fishin picture. A shame...i would have loved to have gotten your check in the mail.

I'm interested in when their real numbers come out. They say in the description that this is just a filler until they publish their more complex formula.

And your last paragraph may be the worst reasoning ever offered in the history of internet forums.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I'm interested in when their real numbers come out. They say in the description that this is just a filler until they publish their more complex formula.

And your last paragraph may be the worst reasoning ever offered in the history of internet forums.

And if you took that last paragraph as anything besides me having a ltitle fun with Chuck then I would recommend a drink (goose and tonic).

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

And if you took that last paragraph as anything besides me having a ltitle fun with Chuck then I would recommend a drink (goose and tonic).

If Trevor Ariza were a baseball player or a horse there would be multiple columns about how a bum suddenly became an decent player seemingly overnight.