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Old 06-05-2009, 10:58 AM
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Surprised you don't like the Trombetta in the Hill Prince, Steve.
I don't get him at all... Only if it comes off.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:12 AM
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Who moves up in the slop today for the Brooklyn? Eldaafer and Alcomo (logical off-track play) ??
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:30 AM
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Can I get a verification on the turf status of the 8th and 9th? Are those two races still on soft grass?
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:36 AM
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Can I get a verification on the turf status of the 8th and 9th? Are those two races still on soft grass?
8th was just taken off the turf...


Appears to be an increasing chance that Hill Prince 9th is coming off. Am in press box and will update as soon as there is any announcement...
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:38 AM
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8th was just taken off the turf...


Appears to be an increasing chance that Hill Prince 9th is coming off. Am in press box and will update as soon as there is any announcement...
Steve, if you bet the late pk4 now and the race gets taken off turf and a horse you use scratches, do you automatically get a winner in that race or do you get post time favorite?
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:07 PM
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Steve, if you bet the late pk4 now and the race gets taken off turf and a horse you use scratches, do you automatically get a winner in that race or do you get post time favorite?
My understanding is that you get the post time favorite if your horse scratches. Once the pick 4 starts if a race is than taken off the turf than you get an ALL.

I hope this makes sense.

If I'm wrong I'm sure some one will provide the correct answer.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:32 AM
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Who moves up in the slop today for the Brooklyn? Eldaafer and Alcomo (logical off-track play) ??
Depending on the odds I would lean with one of the expected speed horses, Delosvientos is a tough call at only the 3-1ML, however he has a history of running well after being beaten double digits in his last race.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:37 AM
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The 8th is now off the turf and the scratches are now 1,2,6,9 in the 8th.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:48 AM
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Depending on the odds I would lean with one of the expected speed horses, Delosvientos is a tough call at only the 3-1ML, however he has a history of running well after being beaten double digits in his last race.
The slop helps speed, but it seems to me that Delosvientos may be a play against at a short price. The scratch of Lord Kipling helps a bit, but he is going to have to deal with Eldaafer and Fierce Wind and possibly Nite Light and may get dueled into submission much like his last. Think the dynamics help the 1 and 7 most and the 9 to some extent.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:53 AM
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Thank you very much for the turf info. I've noticed Twinspires scratches and changes updates are slow.
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The slop helps speed, but it seems to me that Delosvientos may be a play against at a short price. The scratch of Lord Kipling helps a bit, but he is going to have to deal with Eldaafer and Fierce Wind and possibly Nite Light and may get dueled into submission much like his last. Think the dynamics help the 1 and 7 most and the 9 to some extent.
Good points, what we do know is Delosvientos is going to go for the lead no matter who goes with him, it's the only way he knows how to run, the question is will someone make a decision to go with him, if they do it will certainly be a suicide mission setting it up for someone to come later. Interesting race from a tactical point of view, one thing I have learned the hard way over the yrs never assume what a rider is going to do in a race.
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:36 PM
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Good points, what we do know is Delosvientos is going to go for the lead no matter who goes with him, it's the only way he knows how to run, the question is will someone make a decision to go with him, if they do it will certainly be a suicide mission setting it up for someone to come later. Interesting race from a tactical point of view, one thing I have learned the hard way over the yrs never assume what a rider is going to do in a race.
True, you never know what a jockey will do. If he gets an easy lead he will be tough, I just think that if someone is even within a length of him he will fold before the wire. Good Luck today!!
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The 9th is now off the turf as of 1:36 p.m.
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:39 PM
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True, you never know what a jockey will do. If he gets an easy lead he will be tough, I just think that if someone is even within a length of him he will fold before the wire. Good Luck today!!
His last was so incredibly bad that I wouldn't even be worried about him with the easiest of leads. If he wins, so be it, but he's an auto-toss at that price.
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I don't get him at all... Only if it comes off.


Dreadful day of weather seems a certainty today. Better today than tomorrow...



Please tell me you meant that you would rather have the rain today then tomorrow and not that tomorrow's forecast is even worse than today in New York.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:59 AM
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Dreadful day of weather seems a certainty today. Better today than tomorrow...



Please tell me you meant that you would rather have the rain today then tomorrow and not that tomorrow's forecast is even worse than today in New York.
He meant it's better to have the rain today than tomorrow. NY weather tomorrow is nice and sunny. Does look like we'll have some soft footing on the sod tomorrow for whatever races stay on it.
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:15 PM
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I don't get him at all... Only if it comes off.
Some pretty good turf runners in the pedigree. . . too bad the weather ruined an otherwise interesting last three races.
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