NBA Playoffs

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

what type of defense were they playing?? I'd like to know. I didn't see the game as at work. I know they play really good defense, but Orlando always lights them up...it is what scared me about the series. And shooting well over 50 percent tells me whatever they were doing wasn't good.

Cleveland opened up largely with Delonte West covering Hedo turkoglu and Lebron "covering" Rafer Alston. Lebron was playing a one man zone basically and the tactic surprised orlando. Lebron was doubling off the ball on howard and turk and giving rafer the outside shot. on the high pick and roll, lebron would roll with the screener leaving alston by himself. Lebron literally would let alston run anywhere he wanted to and double howard inside or turk outside.

In the second half, orlando made the adjustment. Alston hit a couple of shots and drove a couple of times instead of popping out. Cleveland switched and put lebron on turkoglu and then started doubling with one of their big men at the top against turk.

I would imagine they will scrap that plan next game.

[dalakhani]

Well, if it was just barkley, it would be one thing although i dont see how anyone would call him an "idiot". He is usually quite on point and his analysis is often spot on. Same with Doug Collins.

I didnt hear kenny or reggie disagreeing with hiim. Only cannon shell.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Well, if it was just barkley, it would be one thing although i dont see how anyone would call him an "idiot". He is usually quite on point and his analysis is often spot on. Same with Doug Collins.

I didnt hear kenny or reggie disagreeing with hiim. Only cannon shell.

Uh in case you missed the halftime show where Kenny Smith's pictures featured LeBron "matching up" with Alston, the point that they are making is totally different then our debate. He covered the PG, deal with it.

[dalakhani]

Fair enough. Some people like "the herd" and i think he is a fool. But what about Doug Collins? Does he know what he is talking about? Could both of these basketball lifers that werent even sitting in the same booth and who just coincidentally agree with me be wrong? And if they were, why didnt anyone disagree?

It was obvious to anyone without an agenda and with a semblance of a grasp of the sport what was happening tonight. As soon as Alston started hitting shots, Lebron stopped "guarding" him and switched to turkoglu. And as soon as that happened, Orlando went on their run. It was no longer 5 guarding 4.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Fair enough. Some people like "the herd" and i think he is a fool. But what about Doug Collins? Does he know what he is talking about? Could both of these basketball lifers that werent even sitting in the same booth and who just coincidentally agree with me be wrong? And if they were, why didnt anyone disagree?

It was obvious to anyone without an agenda and with a semblance of a grasp of the sport what was happening tonight. As soon as Alston started hitting shots, Lebron stopped "guarding" him and switched to turkoglu. And as soon as that happened, Orlando went on their run. It was no longer 5 guarding 4.

I doubt that they would agree with you on our disagreement. The point you are making is not relevant to Lebron James never guarding point guards or doing a good job of it. Just as if LeBron was matched up with Howard but roaming around looking to provide weakside help (not double as you put it) he would be matched up with a center. Regardless of the defensive intent in the matchup, there is no doubt that he was covering the point guard. I wont even bother misquoting Jerry west or asking him if he meant Center or PG when he talked about 4 positions.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I doubt that they would agree with you on our disagreement. The point you are making is not relevant to Lebron James never guarding point guards or doing a good job of it. Just as if LeBron was matched up with Howard but roaming around looking to provide weakside help (not double as you put it) he would be matched up with a center. Regardless of the defensive intent in the matchup, there is no doubt that he was covering the point guard. I wont even bother misquoting Jerry west or asking him if he meant Center or PG when he talked about 4 positions.

Just so you might some day understand the difference, the "weak side" is the opposite of where the ball is on the floor. When you rotate off the ball from the opposite side, that is considered "weak side" help. When you leave your man to help cover the post regardless of what side of the floor the ball or your "assignment" is on, thats called "doubling".

I will ask you questions on this next week for a gold star.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Just so you might some day understand the difference, the "weak side" is the opposite of where the ball is on the floor. When you rotate off the ball from the opposite side, that is considered "weak side" help. When you leave your man to help cover the post regardless of what side of the floor the ball or your "assignment" is on, thats called "doubling".

I will ask you questions on this next week for a gold star.

Well actually that is not true but I honestly dont have the time to explain defensive rotations nor does anyone really want to hear it anyway. You in your own defensive posture wouldn't really listen anyway.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Well actually that is not true but I honestly dont have the time to explain defensive rotations nor does anyone really want to hear it anyway. You in your own defensive posture wouldn't really listen anyway.

Oh Chuck, you had time to post two more posts and three more paragraphs but you didnt which tells me you really didnt have anything concrete to say. Do your google searches about defense and come back to me. It will prepare you for the next lesson...half court traps.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

We'll agree to disagree about Barkley. I find him entertaining, but not someone I would say is "usually quite on point" about anything.

Exactly how I feel about him.
He says what he feels.
Which is entertaining

But he really does not put much thought into
anything he says. Shoots from the hip.