5/16 (PIM): Preakness (G1); Dixie (G2); Gallorette (G3), et al..

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

No Shame in the effort that Mine That Bird put in....has beaten all the other the colts twice now

And would have gotten Rachel going longer. So impressed with the bird.

[Bobby Fischer]

my man Friesan went to his knees out of the gate , and went way faster than he needed to early, as well as getting herded directly by Valazquez early...

he just got eaten up in the big race once again

but I can't really say he would have been competitive with a better trip.
It wasn't an impossible trip and he really stopped. It was a lot better trip than the derby.

I still think he is a good horse, but definitely have major doubts

I wonder if he heads to NY for the test of champions?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

my man Friesan went to his knees out of the gate , and went way faster than he needed to early, as well as getting herded directly by Valazquez early...

he just got eaten up in the big race once again

but I can't really say he would have been competitive with a better trip.
It wasn't an impossible trip and he really stopped. It was a lot better trip than the derby.

I still think he is a good horse, but definitely have major doubts

I wonder if he heads to NY for the test of champions?

I think he has to redirect to the minor Derbies and he could possibly find the Winner's Circle again.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I think he has to redirect to the minor Derbies and he could possibly find the Winner's Circle again.

Running like he has in the last two, I wouldn't pick him in the Pomona Derby.

[Derby73]

Well, I'm the guy who sent out the Preakness-Derby trivia earlier (and encouraged on MTB). It's the first time I've hit a Triple Crown Race trifecta, which didn't pay a ton, but it beats the alternative.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

my man Friesan went to his knees out of the gate , and went way faster than he needed to early, as well as getting herded directly by Valazquez early...

he just got eaten up in the big race once again

but I can't really say he would have been competitive with a better trip.
It wasn't an impossible trip and he really stopped. It was a lot better trip than the derby.

I still think he is a good horse, but definitely have major doubts

I wonder if he heads to NY for the test of champions?

do you really? I would think there is no chance in hell he'd go to NY after these last two races.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

do you really? I would think there is no chance in hell he'd go to NY after these last two races.

i hope he doesn't. I don't have the confidence to key around around him, but without seeing him break cleanly and settle into his pace I don't have the confidence to toss him. This is a colt I was "sure" was the best classic distance 3yo, and The Belmont was the one race I had no doubts about going into this triple crown. It would cost me more money to wager, I would probably have to pass the race.

Really impossible to like him much at this point. When your pick gets 1 bad trip you feel like you are sitting on a big one for a couple weeks... Two bad trips and it could just as well be the horse. Proven form is different. It would be different if this were the Travers and he already had proven form in the triple crown series, but these "duds" come at the same time of his first dip into top competition, and his Fairgrounds trips were easy trips.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

my man Friesan went to his knees out of the gate , and went way faster than he needed to early, as well as getting herded directly by Valazquez early...

he just got eaten up in the big race once again

but I can't really say he would have been competitive with a better trip.
It wasn't an impossible trip and he really stopped. It was a lot better trip than the derby.

I still think he is a good horse, but definitely have major doubts

I wonder if he heads to NY for the test of champions?

he needs to go back to la.