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Old 05-10-2009, 06:43 PM
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:48 PM
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no, they're just trying to save the filly, and racing, from themselves. ouija board has no idea how lucky she is, that she escaped death so many times.
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i wonder if anyone has stats out there to show if there's a different percentage of injuries when fillies race colts vs racing other fillies. it would be nice to have proof that it's not any riskier to race vs the opposite sex than vs females.
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:08 PM
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You have to love racing, buy a horse for 10 million, and you cant run her because they are going to run a bunch of dogs due to crazy rules keeping the best horse out of the race.

Seriously, it would be tough to make this stuff up. Gotta love the sport..err game that this is.
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:18 PM
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In the article MTB is reffered to as a colt , uhm when did he become fully intact again?
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:23 PM
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In the article MTB is reffered to as a colt , uhm when did he become fully intact again?
I was wishing someone would grow a pair. I suppose it's only fair it would be the Derby winner.
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:32 PM
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Simply put, if it came down to Graded Earnings instead of some bs nomination fee, there would be no controversy here.
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:13 PM
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i wonder if anyone has stats out there to show if there's a different percentage of injuries when fillies race colts vs racing other fillies. it would be nice to have proof that it's not any riskier to race vs the opposite sex than vs females.
May not be any super colts (or 'roid-fueled freaks like Curlin or Big Brownroid) in this year's Preakness field ... but it's still gunna be a big class jump for the filly.

BIG difference going from smallish fields of overmatched fillies to a full field of males ... and in a longer contest, no less.

Not sayin she doesn't have a shot to win the race ... just that there could be a big jump in injury risk too.



By the way, the last filly to run in the Preakness, Baffy's Excellent Meeting in '99, pulled up and didn't finish the contest...


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...sportCat=horse
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May not be any super colts (or 'roid-fueled freaks like Curlin or Big Brownroid) in this year's Preakness field ... but it's still gunna be a big class jump for the filly.

BIG difference going from smallish fields of overmatched fillies to a full field of males ... and in a longer contest, no less.

Not sayin she doesn't have a shot to win the race ... just that there could be a big jump in injury risk too.



By the way, the last filly to run in the Preakness, Baffy's Excellent Meeting in '99, pulled up and didn't finish the contest...


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...sportCat=horse
so? that's one horse. now tell me how every other filly who entered over the years did? fillies run past 1 3/16 fairly often. i doubt rachel will fold like a cheap tent when/if she makes the attempt.
i just want to see her get to try. if she can't do it, we'll know.
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i wonder if anyone has stats out there to show if there's a different percentage of injuries when fillies race colts vs racing other fillies. it would be nice to have proof that it's not any riskier to race vs the opposite sex than vs females.
I don't know if there is, but sometime around Rags' Belmont I read a really interesting article about the physiological advantages of colts vs. fillies. I wish I could remember where I saw it and post the link, but I remember the thrust of the article being that there was no real advantage for colts at short distances (six furlongs and less) and at long ones (past a mile and a quarter) but that the males had an advantage for the middle distances, with the advantage peaking at a mile and a quarter.

I looked for the article, but no luck so far. However, I did find this, ahem, very "interesting" look at Rags' Belmont victory from a Biblical standpoint.

http://www.biblenews1.com/history7/20070609filly.htm

Apparently Christians aren't getting enough sodium in their diets and Rags to Riches is the Whore of Babylon. Or something like that. I was a little confused by the end of the article.
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Old 05-10-2009, 11:29 PM
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I don't know if there is, but sometime around Rags' Belmont I read a really interesting article about the physiological advantages of colts vs. fillies. I wish I could remember where I saw it and post the link, but I remember the thrust of the article being that there was no real advantage for colts at short distances (six furlongs and less) and at long ones (past a mile and a quarter) but that the males had an advantage for the middle distances, with the advantage peaking at a mile and a quarter.

I looked for the article, but no luck so far. However, I did find this, ahem, very "interesting" look at Rags' Belmont victory from a Biblical standpoint.

http://www.biblenews1.com/history7/20070609filly.htm

Apparently Christians aren't getting enough sodium in their diets and Rags to Riches is the Whore of Babylon. Or something like that. I was a little confused by the end of the article.
I'm more than a little confused by that "article".
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Old 05-10-2009, 11:54 PM
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the Preakness is "THE PEOPLE'S RACE"

"THE PEOPLE'S PARTY"

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This article is unreal. I wonder if he does picks like the wizard, or gods picks, or something like that.
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I don't know if there is, but sometime around Rags' Belmont I read a really interesting article about the physiological advantages of colts vs. fillies. I wish I could remember where I saw it and post the link, but I remember the thrust of the article being that there was no real advantage for colts at short distances (six furlongs and less) and at long ones (past a mile and a quarter) but that the males had an advantage for the middle distances, with the advantage peaking at a mile and a quarter.

I looked for the article, but no luck so far. However, I did find this, ahem, very "interesting" look at Rags' Belmont victory from a Biblical standpoint.

http://www.biblenews1.com/history7/20070609filly.htm

Apparently Christians aren't getting enough sodium in their diets and Rags to Riches is the Whore of Babylon. Or something like that. I was a little confused by the end of the article.
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Mark Allen press release relenting on additional entry...

For immediate release (Sunday, May 10, 1015 p.m.)

Indy Express out of Preakness

Mark Allen, owner of the 135th Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird, will not enter Indy Express in the 2009 Preakness Stakes.

Early this morning Allen was delivered a message to contact another owner “Our conversation consisted of congratulating me on our win in the Derby and talking about a rematch, wanting a chance to hook us on a fast surface. We laughed and joked about what a race that would be,” said Allen.

“When it comes to Rachel Alexandra, I personally don’t think any filly should be in a race against colts at this stage of their careers. I don’t believe in running fillies against the colts. But Rachel Alexandra is a superior filly and could be the exception. Mr. Jackson has a great trainer in Steve Asmussen and I’m sure they will make the right decision and Lord help us all if she does get in.”

“And yes, it’s true that I would like to have my jockey back. Calvin Borel is great and did a great job for us. I also respect him and I completely understand his love for Rachel Alexandra. If the filly gets in we have a commitment from Mike Smith. We have a lot of confidence in Mike, he’s from our part of the country and he’s got some Cowboy in him too, I’ve seen his boots,” said Allen.

“Additionally, my decision to enter Indy Express in the Preakness was strictly business but after consulting with my Dad and Doc Blach, I have decided to withdraw Indy Express to prevent any further miss understandings. They’re advice to me was just to do what’s right, because arrogance and greed isn’t right. Indy Express is a good colt and showing a lot of potential. I’ll just have to look forward to running him later on down the road. The bottom-line for me is that we came here to race and enjoy our win here in Louisville. So, we’ll meet everyone in Baltimore, ready to run,” said Allen.
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Additionally, my decision to enter Indy Express in the Preakness was strictly business but after consulting with my Dad and Doc Blach, I have decided to withdraw Indy Express to prevent any further miss understandings.


Ah yes.. Miss Understanding (sic), always the fall person...
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Mark Allen press release relenting on additional entry...

For immediate release (Sunday, May 10, 1015 p.m.)

Indy Express out of Preakness

Mark Allen, owner of the 135th Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird, will not enter Indy Express in the 2009 Preakness Stakes.

Early this morning Allen was delivered a message to contact another owner “Our conversation consisted of congratulating me on our win in the Derby and talking about a rematch, wanting a chance to hook us on a fast surface. We laughed and joked about what a race that would be,” said Allen.

“When it comes to Rachel Alexandra, I personally don’t think any filly should be in a race against colts at this stage of their careers. I don’t believe in running fillies against the colts. But Rachel Alexandra is a superior filly and could be the exception. Mr. Jackson has a great trainer in Steve Asmussen and I’m sure they will make the right decision and Lord help us all if she does get in.”

“And yes, it’s true that I would like to have my jockey back. Calvin Borel is great and did a great job for us. I also respect him and I completely understand his love for Rachel Alexandra. If the filly gets in we have a commitment from Mike Smith. We have a lot of confidence in Mike, he’s from our part of the country and he’s got some Cowboy in him too, I’ve seen his boots,” said Allen.

“Additionally, my decision to enter Indy Express in the Preakness was strictly business but after consulting with my Dad and Doc Blach, I have decided to withdraw Indy Express to prevent any further miss understandings. They’re advice to me was just to do what’s right, because arrogance and greed isn’t right. Indy Express is a good colt and showing a lot of potential. I’ll just have to look forward to running him later on down the road. The bottom-line for me is that we came here to race and enjoy our win here in Louisville. So, we’ll meet everyone in Baltimore, ready to run,” said Allen.
Huzzah!
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Mark Allen press release relenting on additional entry...

For immediate release (Sunday, May 10, 1015 p.m.)

Indy Express out of Preakness

Mark Allen, owner of the 135th Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird, will not enter Indy Express in the 2009 Preakness Stakes.

Early this morning Allen was delivered a message to contact another owner “Our conversation consisted of congratulating me on our win in the Derby and talking about a rematch, wanting a chance to hook us on a fast surface. We laughed and joked about what a race that would be,” said Allen.

“When it comes to Rachel Alexandra, I personally don’t think any filly should be in a race against colts at this stage of their careers. I don’t believe in running fillies against the colts. But Rachel Alexandra is a superior filly and could be the exception. Mr. Jackson has a great trainer in Steve Asmussen and I’m sure they will make the right decision and Lord help us all if she does get in.”

“And yes, it’s true that I would like to have my jockey back. Calvin Borel is great and did a great job for us. I also respect him and I completely understand his love for Rachel Alexandra. If the filly gets in we have a commitment from Mike Smith. We have a lot of confidence in Mike, he’s from our part of the country and he’s got some Cowboy in him too, I’ve seen his boots,” said Allen.

“Additionally, my decision to enter Indy Express in the Preakness was strictly business but after consulting with my Dad and Doc Blach, I have decided to withdraw Indy Express to prevent any further miss understandings. They’re advice to me was just to do what’s right, because arrogance and greed isn’t right. Indy Express is a good colt and showing a lot of potential. I’ll just have to look forward to running him later on down the road. The bottom-line for me is that we came here to race and enjoy our win here in Louisville. So, we’ll meet everyone in Baltimore, ready to run,” said Allen.
Miss Understandings? who's she? Mr. Allen might want to hire a copyeditor before putting out a press release.
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I don't know if there is, but sometime around Rags' Belmont I read a really interesting article about the physiological advantages of colts vs. fillies. I wish I could remember where I saw it and post the link, but I remember the thrust of the article being that there was no real advantage for colts at short distances (six furlongs and less) and at long ones (past a mile and a quarter) but that the males had an advantage for the middle distances, with the advantage peaking at a mile and a quarter.

I looked for the article, but no luck so far. However, I did find this, ahem, very "interesting" look at Rags' Belmont victory from a Biblical standpoint.

http://www.biblenews1.com/history7/20070609filly.htm

Apparently Christians aren't getting enough sodium in their diets and Rags to Riches is the Whore of Babylon. Or something like that. I was a little confused by the end of the article.

lol
what an article...


"The victory of the filly in the Belmont Stakes symbolizes the US military with females in the ranks in the Iraq War. The women may be very brave, but they do not belong in combat. The demasculinizing of US society is due to the rise of the Prostitute of Babylon, which is the result of the lack of salt in Christians in the Church."

yeah, we get it. females are inferior, when they accomplish anything-it's always the beginning of the end.
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[quote=GenuineRisk]I don't know if there is, but sometime around Rags' Belmont I read a really interesting article about the physiological advantages of colts vs. fillies. I wish I could remember where I saw it and post the link, but I remember the thrust of the article being that there was no real advantage for colts at short distances (six furlongs and less) and at long ones (past a mile and a quarter) but that the males had an advantage for the middle distances, with the advantage peaking at a mile and a quarter.

I looked for the article, but no luck so far. However, I did find this, ahem, very "interesting" look at Rags' Belmont victory from a Biblical standpoint.

http://www.biblenews1.com/history7/20070609filly.htm

This is better than most explanations that have been trying to explain Mine That Bird's victory.

Is the infamous ROSSTABBERT behind this organization?
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I cant wait to see him try to explain his post to andy in the Derby re cap thread.

Good King Solomon will solve it.


Biblical stuff, the final word,
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