Borel off Bird for Rachel in Preakness

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Well.. we were speculating based on ther situation at the moment and anticipating the decisions of the parties involved. This more definitive report came through witnesses to the conversation about the commitment and a 'non-confirmation' confirmation from Borel agent Jerry Hissam who said it needs to be officially announced by the trainer or owner.

There was never a shot he wasn't going to ride her and you knew it and wisely advised the listeners. Borel knows which horse is better...One is a Ferrari the other is Camaro.. As for Borel's horse whisper ways with Rachel, you may want to take that with a small grain of salt, I am sure any top flight jock would be fine and I am sure he loves riding her who wouldn't..

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

As for Borel's horse whisper ways with Rachel, you may want to take that with a small grain of salt, I am sure any top flight jock would be fine and I am sure he loves riding her who wouldn't..

You never know Freddy.. It can take a ride or two to work out communication between horse and rider. Pat Kelly has told me a lot about difficult to ride horses with Naughty New Yorker as the specific horse on the topic. He isn't a horse you can throw any rider on...

During the Street Sense campaign, not that it necessarily applies the same way here, but Carl Nafzger also was very specific that Borel was his rider of choice for the Juvy/Derby/Travers winner because he was a guy that would communicate to the trainer the nuances he was experiencing on board. Nafzger wanted that so he could make adjustments in the training of the horse.

Don't disagree that they may be Ferraris and Cameros, but few of them have automatic transmissions.

[gales0678]

steve - look at JD bailey he won of the biggest races of the year one time without ever being on the horse and even being able to talk to the trainer

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve - look at JD bailey he won of the biggest races of the year one time without ever being on the horse and even being able to talk to the trainer

not all horses are difficult. it's important for a horse to have the ability to listen to the rider-it's the difference between a good horse and a really good horse. you have some with all the speed in the world, but if you can't control it, you have a horse like sinister minister...

Originally Posted by Kasept

Don't disagree that they may be Ferraris and Cameros, but few of them have automatic transmissions.

Good lord I hope they're not using what I think they're using for the stick.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You never know Freddy.. It can take a ride or two to work out communication between horse and rider. Pat Kelly has told me a lot about difficult to ride horses with Naughty New Yorker as the specific horse on the topic. He isn't a horse you can throw any rider on...

During the Street Sense campaign, not that it necessarily applies the same way here, but Carl Nafzger also was very specific that Borel was his rider of choice for the Juvy/Derby/Travers winner because he was a guy that would communicate to the trainer the nuances he was experiencing on board. Nafzger wanted that so he could make adjustments in the training of the horse.

Don't disagree that they may be Ferraris and Cameros, but few of them have automatic transmissions.

I have heard that Zito doesn't allow jocks to work his horses in the morning. I am not sure if it is true but perhaps his horses come with special equipment? There is no denying a chemistry forms between the the jock and the horse..

[Bobby Fischer]

jockeys are meaningless, i learned this in kindergarten

[Rootdog1]

Is it a big deal, yes. Is it suprising, no.

Again, I think Borel said MTB wont repeat and they can cruise to a nice G1 check in the preakness. No other reason to run her back this quick. Regardless of how easy you think she won, she runs hard and rest is needed. The question in my mind is can she win at 80%? I would say...easily.

[JDank34]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You never know Freddy.. It can take a ride or two to work out communication between horse and rider. Pat Kelly has told me a lot about difficult to ride horses with Naughty New Yorker as the specific horse on the topic. He isn't a horse you can throw any rider on...

During the Street Sense campaign, not that it necessarily applies the same way here, but Carl Nafzger also was very specific that Borel was his rider of choice for the Juvy/Derby/Travers winner because he was a guy that would communicate to the trainer the nuances he was experiencing on board. Nafzger wanted that so he could make adjustments in the training of the horse.

Don't disagree that they may be Ferraris and Cameros, but few of them have automatic transmissions.

Great Point Steve....It is way to assumptive to figure any jockey can/would win on RA.