Rachel Alexandra

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not the definition of a freak, but running 110+ Beyers at 6 1/2 furlongs, 7 furlongs, a mile, 1 1/8 miles and 1 1/4 miles is way more impressive than doing it a few times at 6 and 7 furlongs. Not to mention that GZ did it on the lead, stalking, and as a dead closer.

All of his races were just unbelievable, but this will always be my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQvNu-XQoQ

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

All of his races were just unbelievable, but this will always be my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQvNu-XQoQ

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

He was incredible, it would have been even more incredible if Frankel wasn't winning everything back then...

[CSC]

Originally Posted by monipenny

Why the hell does this deflect from what the Zapper did in his brief career. I truly believe his most magnificent victory was his last- the Met Mile. Jon Nerud called Frankel after the race and said " the greatest milers have the most influence on the breed in racing."

Do I really have to give you an answer for you to understand? You really want me to...Okay then, think of Roger Clemons before the steroids scandal, and now think of him after the scandal. Notice any difference of your thoughts towards him?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

Do I really have to give you an answer for you to understand? You really want me to...Okay then, think of Roger Clemons before the steroids scandal, and now think of him after the scandal. Notice any difference of your thoughts towards him?

Are you trying to say that Ghostzapper's career has something to do with Frankel's usage of drugs on his horses? If so, I think you're absolutely dead wrong.

NT

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Are you trying to say that Ghostzapper's career has something to do with Frankel's usage of drugs on his horses? If so, I think you're absolutely dead wrong.

NT

GZ would probably been a very good racehorse regardless if he was on anything or not, just as Roger was a very good pitcher before he his physique began noticably changing. Then he became even better, wonder why... I hate to generalize but back in those days Frankel horses would win with bad trips, good trips, peculiar trips, I know I bet him quite often to some success. I'm not sure why you think I am dead wrong, if so I am interested why you think so.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

GZ would probably been a very good racehorse regardless if he was on anything or not, just as Roger was a very good pitcher before he his physique began noticably changing. Then he became even better, wonder why... I hate to generalize but back in those days Frankel horses would win with bad trips, good trips, peculiar trips, I know I bet him quite often to some success. I'm not sure why you think I am dead wrong, if so I am interested why you think so.

First of all, you're equating two things that are incredibly different. Roger Clemens' alleged HGH usage and you accusing Frankel of using steroids (i think) are pretty different.

Frankel had a great run in the early part of this decade because he had excellent horses. Having Edmund Gann's business was strong, he was getting good horses from Juddmonte left and right and Stronach basically gave him everything that could run.

He has since fallen on hard(er) times but to try to soil a horse like Ghostzapper's record because you suppose Frankel was using steroids on him is unfair. It takes away from a horse who despite a wealth of physical problems, accomplished many incredible feats and brought his best every time he ran.

Most of all, I think you're wrong because of your complete generalization. You seem to remember Frankel horses winning with all kinds of trips, and now you don't, so I guess he was using. Those just aren't steps I have in my way of thinking.

NT

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

Yeah, that one was pretty darn impressive.

While they are no where in the same league as Ghostzapper, it's kinda funny how Castellano lucks into some of the biggest horses in the past few years like Bernardini and Bellamy Road in the Wood.

[Travis Stone]

No need to compare, contrast and wonder if she could be this filly or that filly of yesteryear. Regardless, a 20 length win by a filly who looked like she was out for an afternoon gallop is pretty awesome.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

His 3yo return race might have been my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSo-M...eature=related

When he broke with the field and starting dropping out of it I remember saying "damn.. he's ruined."

His debut race as a 2yo was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWklJ...eature=related