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Old 05-01-2009, 06:48 PM
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She was obviously running against the clock and the wind ... but that performance was really something.... to say the very least.

I'd love to see her hook up with Zenyatta on a real dirt track at 9 furlongs later in the year.
i would too. shame the bc is over there.
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:51 PM
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Speed always has the advantage and she has more than Zenyatta. Since Rachel's owner thinks fillies shouldn't run against boys, I guess we won't see her in the Classic this year. Since she'll be in the Distaff, Zenyatta will be in the Classic this year. That's going to be her best chance to win another BC race.
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:55 PM
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Speed always has the advantage and she has more than Zenyatta. Since Rachel's owner thinks fillies shouldn't run against boys, I guess we won't see her in the Classic this year. Since she'll be in the Distaff, Zenyatta will be in the Classic this year. That's going to be her best chance to win another BC race.
Thats a very good point.
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:56 PM
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Speed always has the advantage
Not on Santa Anita's Pro-Ride it doesn't.

I'd bet my lungs on Zenyatta against her on that crap until I see a race from RA on it that impresses me.

On real dirt, I'd give a very strong edge to RA with her natural speed. Zenyatta's lone dirt win came at the expense of the lousy Brownie Points - Ginger Punch was in there but didn't fire - and Zenyatta's final time wasn't as impressive Tiag-slow's in winning the Oaklawn Park Cap on the same card.
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:59 PM
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i wouldn't necessarily bet rachel over zenyatta in the bc. zenyatta certainly is a very good horse. and of course she's shown true ability over the cali surface. the reason i would pick her over rachel in the bc is the same reason why i wouldn't bet POTN tomorrow.
we know zenyatta can run on dirt. so, the best matchup between these two distaffers would be on that surface. no excuses then for either....altho i've always thought a top four year old holds an edge over a top three year old. would love to seem race, that's the only way to know which was better.
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:12 PM
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Two points: 1) Other than a shot against Zenyatta, this horse should race against the boys or retire. Anything otherwise would be pointless. 2) If Barry Abrams is her trainer, she might have won the Oaks and the Derby.
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:13 PM
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What a special filly.. I hope we get to see more of her greatness.
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:14 PM
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Just watched it. Just unbelieveable. I have never seen a horse give what was the equivalent of, a public work in a race so big. That was amazing!
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:42 PM
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Two points: 1) Other than a shot against Zenyatta, this horse should race against the boys or retire. Anything otherwise would be pointless. 2) If Barry Abrams is her trainer, she might have won the Oaks and the Derby.
If Barry Abrams was her trainer than she would run and lost in the Oaks, then run and lost in the derby, then run her next weekend in a turf race. Run her 15 more times then retire her and then breed her to Unusual Heat.
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Old 05-01-2009, 08:06 PM
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If Barry Abrams was her trainer than she would run and lost in the Oaks, then run and lost in the derby, then run her next weekend in a turf race. Run her 15 more times then retire her and then breed her to Unusual Heat.
I was being sarcastic, but you are being very acurate
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:15 PM
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Speed always has the advantage and she has more than Zenyatta. Since Rachel's owner thinks fillies shouldn't run against boys, I guess we won't see her in the Classic this year. Since she'll be in the Distaff, Zenyatta will be in the Classic this year. That's going to be her best chance to win another BC race.
but wouldn't it be funny if rachel entered the man's classic and zenyatta's connections go in the girl's classic to avoid rachel
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:23 PM
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Can we count on IEAH trying to make up for lost time and trying to get her now? I personally would be too attached to her but I know some folks have a price and she was for sale for $1.5 mil at one point. If they did get her, I bet the Classic would suddenly enter the picture.
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That was electric...

Calvin must have been clucking like crazy.

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Old 05-01-2009, 07:52 PM
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That was electric...

Calvin must jave been clucking like crazy.
He spent several seconds pointing to the stable connections and smiling, patting the horse, giving the thumbs up to the crowd.

Then he got to the sixteenth pole and had to ride out "pretty" for the win pic
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Old 05-01-2009, 08:39 PM
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He spent several seconds pointing to the stable connections and smiling, patting the horse, giving the thumbs up to the crowd.

Then he got to the sixteenth pole and had to ride out "pretty" for the win pic
Borel is absolutely bush league with all those antics. It draws away from the filly. Thank god the guy can ride because he would be a Wendy's drive through specialist otherwise.
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