NBA Playoffs

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Uh they traded for him. It was quite obvious that they couldnt do any of those things with or without him. They have virtually no post game, Stuckey has disappointed, Wallace is slipping, Prince is a great role player but isnt a star, RIP is still in his prime but is mainly a catch and shoot guy on a team that has no inside game to draw pressure off of him. In the NBA most trades are player for contract or contract for player.

yes it is quite obvious.

Now.

At first part of the season when he was traded
it was quite obvious...? So there were no other big contracts
for players that would be obvious failures?

No way I give up on Stuckey yet.
He was caught up in a lot of team stuff this year.
With a group of new players (ie AI and Sheed gone)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

yes it is quite obvious.

Now.

At first part of the season when he was traded
it was quite obvious...? So there were no other big contracts
for players that would be obvious failures?

No way I give up on Stuckey yet.
He was caught up in a lot of team stuff this year.
With a group of new players (ie AI and Sheed gone)

Who thought the Pistons weren't in decline? If he can clear out cap space and get some players in there it will be a good move. Dumars understood that his team wasnt good enough to beat Cleveland or Boston the next few years so he is revamping. That is smart, tough for the fans this year and probably next but good in the end. There are a lot of NBA teams losing money that will be looking to dump salaries, having cap space makes Detroit a big player in the market. It may not work as he may not be able to get the right combination but who really thought detroit was a viable contender?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Who thought the Pistons weren't in decline? If he can clear out cap space and get some players in there it will be a good move. Dumars understood that his team wasnt good enough to beat Cleveland or Boston the next few years so he is revamping. That is smart, tough for the fans this year and probably next but good in the end. There are a lot of NBA teams losing money that will be looking to dump salaries, having cap space makes Detroit a big player in the market. It may not work as he may not be able to get the right combination but who really thought detroit was a viable contender?

With the offense that Iverson could bring,
I thought it was possible they might be better.
(I actually love his effort, just hate his stubborn
nature.)
Detroit had always been a defensive, slug it out team
that was in an offense rut as I remember. I was of the mind
that he might work out. They certainly were not going
anywhere with Billups. You never know with a brand new
component.

But the point that he clears space with a large expiring contract
made it a decision with options, which is really important.
Especially as we look at Detroit now.

AI missing practice and then having pine splinter phobia makes
it so much easier in the end for all involved.

[King Glorious]

Cannon is 100% correct. The Pistons, with Billups, were NOT going to be better than Boston. They were NOT going to be better than Cleveland. They were going to battle with Orlando and Atlanta for third best team at best. So Dumars did the best thing he could do. He needs to rebuild and he wanted to try and stay competitive at the same time. Iverson is still a good player and a drawing card. He watched teams like Boston with their old big three and the Bulls ride their cards out til the wheels came off and nobody had any value left. He did not want that to happen to Detroit. I said it when he first made the trade that it wouldn't necessarily help or hurt the team this year but for the future, it was the right move.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Cannon is 100% correct. The Pistons, with Billups, were NOT going to be better than Boston. They were NOT going to be better than Cleveland. They were going to battle with Orlando and Atlanta for third best team at best. So Dumars did the best thing he could do. He needs to rebuild and he wanted to try and stay competitive at the same time. Iverson is still a good player and a drawing card. He watched teams like Boston with their old big three and the Bulls ride their cards out til the wheels came off and nobody had any value left. He did not want that to happen to Detroit. I said it when he first made the trade that it wouldn't necessarily help or hurt the team this year but for the future, it was the right move.

I also read where you said that Denver would
be a tougher team with Billups. So you were
a sage 3 times over.



As an aside:

Chris Paul is ridiculously good.
He has distanced himself in a league full
of very good PG's.

[King Glorious]

There was a play in the Utah series game two where it looked to me like Bynum's knee took an odd buckle. He didn't seem to be in any pain and continued to play so maybe it was nothing. I was kind of expecting that he would be out tonight but he's in there. I wouldn't be surprised though if he's reinjured it some and is forced out soon.