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Old 04-19-2009, 02:53 PM
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Pants, I think you are missing the point here. This punishment shows there is no deterrent for violating the detention barn rules. It does not matter what was in the syringe, there is a clear policy that you cannot give a horse anything in the detention barn. A strong punishment would have sent the message that they are serious about this policy. No trainer should be unclear about this rule. If they gave a strong punishment, no trainer would dare take a risk. With this penalty, the risk is worth the reward.
And it's clear policy in most work places that you can't leave work 15 minutes early without permission and people still do it and don't get caught and when they do they usually aren't punished unless they're menial labor.

This is a minor infraction. The detention barn was a joke from the get-go and things aren't going to change because you can't fight the lawyers.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:01 PM
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The infraction was not minor...he had the audacity to give something (it doesn't matter WHAT it was...minty fresh or not) to a horse in a detention barn when the purpose of that detention barn is to keep horses from getting ANYTHING prior to a race. Yes...the detention barn is a joke, and him saying he didn't know was a joke....he knew...and didn't give a ****...and rightfully so, as he received practically NO punishment at all.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:01 PM
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And it's clear policy in most work places that you can't leave work 15 minutes early without permission and people still do it and don't get caught and when they do they usually aren't punished unless they're menial labor.

This is a minor infraction. The detention barn was a joke from the get-go and things aren't going to change because you can't fight the lawyers.
I have to agree to disagree Pants. I believe that this kind of punishment is what makes the detention barn a joke. The detention barn to be effective needs a zero tolerance policy. When you start grading offenses trainers start to size up the risks. I just get this feeling that the happiest people about this suspension is Mullins' wife and kids.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:09 PM
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I have to agree to disagree Pants. I believe that this kind of punishment is what makes the detention barn a joke. The detention barn to be effective needs a zero tolerance policy. When you start grading offenses trainers start to size up the risks. I just get this feeling that the happiest people about this suspension is Mullins' wife and kids.
The Detention Barn does practically nothing to curb cheating. Most drugs administered to these horses will never be detected. It's all smoke and mirrors from the Barney Fife crew for job security.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:29 PM
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The Detention Barn does practically nothing to curb cheating. Most drugs administered to these horses will never be detected. It's all smoke and mirrors from the Barney Fife crew for job security.

No rule is effective if the punishment for breaking the rules does not sting.
Its a cost benefit decision. And this clearly sends
the message that the detention barn is NOW a joke.

There may be many worse problems that need addressing.
This WAS a step to prevent prerace messing around.
NOW the detention barn really is a joke. Much more so than
it might have been before.

Comparing this to leaving work early or going 5 mph over the
speed limit is ridiculous. If people were leaving work early to take
items out of other workers cars...
Leaving work so there wont be a traffic jam is another story.
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:22 PM
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The Detention Barn does practically nothing to curb cheating. Most drugs administered to these horses will never be detected. It's all smoke and mirrors from the Barney Fife crew for job security.
BTW, they should of had an episode where Barney gets accused of messing with kids(not exactly a stretch.) The town would want his head, and Andy would investigate(and save stickfigure's bacon.)
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