Mullins Suspended 7 Days

Originally Posted by Danzig

forum mom? whatever. i guess it's poor form for me to say what i thought about your self portrait-but not poor form for you to have posted it. moving on....

It's comedy gold that have no idea what goatse is. You're so out of touch with the internet it's no wonder that your opinion on crime and punishment dates back to the Roman age.

[Danzig]

i may be out of touch, but i do know how to put someone on the ignore list. since i thought you wouldn't be back, i hadn't bothered-til now.

[philcski]

What a phucking joke. Once again, outright cheating means nothing in this game according to the authorities.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by philcski

What a phucking joke. Once again, outright cheating means nothing in this game according to the authorities.

Yeah, the penalty handed to him is a joke and will just give Mullins more reasons to continue to cheat. How this guy hasn't been thrown out of the game is beyond me. Pretty soon guys like Dutrow,Mullins, and Lake will be seen walking in and out of the detention barn with bags of needles throughout the day.

[Stall Mucker]

Despite the shady record, NYSRWB punishment is fair. 1st time offense in the D-Barn. Think about it. It is justice. We all know Mullins' past but, that does not come into account in this case. Many criminal cases are handled the same way.

Originally Posted by Danzig

i may be out of touch, but i do know how to put someone on the ignore list. since i thought you wouldn't be back, i hadn't bothered-til now.

Maybe Steve should dart you 5 days for questioning his authority like I did? Just because you put money in the stables doesn't mean you should be exempt from the dartgun. Besides your pompous attitude lately is automatic grounds for a benching.

[pmacdaddy]

What a f*cking joke. Please...just get rid of the detention barns as they obviously don't mean sh*t.

Think of all the money they can save not pretending to REALLY mean business.

Too bad I'm at Disney this week. Could have met the Mullins family...

[pointman]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

What a f*cking joke. Please...just get rid of the detention barns as they obviously don't mean sh*t.

Think of all the money they can save not pretending to REALLY mean business.

Too bad I'm at Disney this week. Could have met the Mullins family...

You are not kidding, it is no wonder why trainers take the risk of cheating, if these are the penalties than it is worth the risk. Watch the Mullins family take a 7 day trip to Disneyland!

The fake outrage is hilarious.

The offence is about equal to you leaving work 15 minutes early on a friday, getting caught, and getting docked a weeks pay. The only difference is you don't have a bunch of judgemental a.ssholes whining about the punishment handed down...and if you did they would be fellow employees and you need to find another job because that place sucks.

[pmacdaddy]

The detention barns are the outrage.

Imagine being a trainer that gives a **** about knowing the rules and following them. Putting your horse through that detenetion barn nonsense (for show apparently). when if you break those rules you get a week off.

If the barns are supposed to improve public perception, just forget about it...

Its a dirty game. Adjust your handicapping and wait for it to die...

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

The fake outrage is hilarious.

The offence is about equal to you leaving work 15 minutes early on a friday, getting caught, and getting docked a weeks pay. The only difference is you don't have a bunch of judgemental a.ssholes whining about the punishment handed down...and if you did they would be fellow employees and you need to find another job because that place sucks.

You think going into a dentention barn and administering a drug before the race is not a big deal ? Is about as bad as it gets. Your comparison is laughable.

Originally Posted by stonegossard

You think going into a dentention barn and administering a drug before the race is not a big deal ? Is about as bad as it gets. Your comparison is laughable.

Yeah it was a serious drug. It would've enabled that horse to have a minty fresh feeling and that's illegal.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

The fake outrage is hilarious.

The offence is about equal to you leaving work 15 minutes early on a friday, getting caught, and getting docked a weeks pay. The only difference is you don't have a bunch of judgemental a.ssholes whining about the punishment handed down...and if you did they would be fellow employees and you need to find another job because that place sucks.

Pants, I think you are missing the point here. This punishment shows there is no deterrent for violating the detention barn rules. It does not matter what was in the syringe, there is a clear policy that you cannot give a horse anything in the detention barn. A strong punishment would have sent the message that they are serious about this policy. No trainer should be unclear about this rule. If they gave a strong punishment, no trainer would dare take a risk. With this penalty, the risk is worth the reward.

[eajinabi]

All of Mullins horses should be banned from racing that whole 7 days. Owners that give thier horses to mullins should be affected too. Then the owners will think twice before giving thier horses in Mullins "care".

Originally Posted by pointman

Pants, I think you are missing the point here. This punishment shows there is no deterrent for violating the detention barn rules. It does not matter what was in the syringe, there is a clear policy that you cannot give a horse anything in the detention barn. A strong punishment would have sent the message that they are serious about this policy. No trainer should be unclear about this rule. If they gave a strong punishment, no trainer would dare take a risk. With this penalty, the risk is worth the reward.

And it's clear policy in most work places that you can't leave work 15 minutes early without permission and people still do it and don't get caught and when they do they usually aren't punished unless they're menial labor.

This is a minor infraction. The detention barn was a joke from the get-go and things aren't going to change because you can't fight the lawyers.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by pointman

Pants, I think you are missing the point here. This punishment shows there is no deterrent for violating the detention barn rules. It does not matter what was in the syringe, there is a clear policy that you cannot give a horse anything in the detention barn. A strong punishment would have sent the message that they are serious about this policy. No trainer should be unclear about this rule. If they gave a strong punishment, no trainer would dare take a risk. With this penalty, the risk is worth the reward.

I personally do think that it matters what was in the syringe. By no means am I trying to defend Mullins (I have my own opinion about the guy). But, didn't he mention that he had a horse that was administered Air Power a week or two earlier, when in the care of Anthony Dutrow (I know another interesting case)? He's a guy who is from out of town and got caught doing something that he probably thought was legit. I totally understand the detenion barn rules, but if it could be proved that a horse was treated with the air power weeks earlier, then there are apparently other bigger problems to worry about at the detention barn. Also do you think there would be as much outrage if it was a guy like Michael Matz who shipped in and got caught? I think it was a fair punishment, it was cough syrup, but since it was Mullins people want him lynched.