Gomez To Announce His Mount

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Oh my God.

Yeah, Chocolate Candy is a monster.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Yeah, Chocolate Candy is a monster.

Don't delete this sarcastic remark after the Derby.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Don't delete this sarcastic remark after the Derby.

omg

[justindew]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Don't delete this sarcastic remark after the Derby.

Not to mention Chocolate Candy is probably the 3rd-best horse POTN has beaten this year.

I'm sure stonegossard is about 5 seconds away from reminding everyone that I said the economy was "not that bad" a year ago. But no matter how dumb of me that was, saying POTN has beaten horrendous horses this year is as asinine a statement as I have seen in a long time.

It's almost as if he's only watched one race all year. And say what you want about the SA Derby field, but it's going to produce three Derby starters.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by justindew

Not to mention Chocolate Candy is probably the 3rd-best horse POTN has beaten this year.

I'm sure stonegossard is about 5 seconds away from reminding everyone that I said the economy was "not that bad" a year ago. But no matter how dumb of me that was, saying POTN has beaten horrendous horses this year is as asinine a statement as I have seen in a long time.

It's almost as if he's only watched one race all year. And say what you want about the SA Derby field, but it's going to produce three Derby starters.

If he wanted to say the fields weren't that good and say that you can't compare what IWR and Papa Clem did in those races to what they have done after because they are better dirt horses, I wouldn't agree but I'd at least kind of understand. But he mentioned that the fields weren't that good in his argument of why Gomez made the wrong choice between Dunkirk and Pioneer and in comparing the fields the two of them have beaten, that makes the statement rather stupid.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If he wanted to say the fields weren't that good and say that you can't compare what IWR and Papa Clem did in those races to what they have done after because they are better dirt horses, I wouldn't agree but I'd at least kind of understand. But he mentioned that the fields weren't that good in his argument of why Gomez made the wrong choice between Dunkirk and Pioneer and in comparing the fields the two of them have beaten, that makes the statement rather stupid.

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

I think if you had been able to make this argument to Anderson and Gomez, they likely would have landed on Dunkirk. I doubt they considered any of the above.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think if you had been able to make this argument to Anderson and Gomez, they likely would have landed on Dunkirk. I doubt they considered any of the above.

Ok genius. Where does Gomez plan on riding most of the year? If you can figure that out then the next question. Who has a bigger presence in that area ?

Ya think that had something to do with his decision ?

[ezgoerbaby]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

Dunkirk is going to take a ton of money and he is going to need EVERYTHING to go perfectly. I question Dunkirk's ability to get 1 1/4, especially with the way he looked after the FL derby...looked like he was going to collapse. I will admit though...he's a game SOB...he kept on trying.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by ezgoerbaby

Dunkirk is going to take a ton of money and he is going to need EVERYTHING to go perfectly. I question Dunkirk's ability to get 1 1/4, especially with the way he looked after the FL derby...looked like he was going to collapse. I will admit though...he's a game SOB...he kept on trying.

How do you figure Dunkirk will take a lot of money? Based on Pletcher's record in the derby ?

While will he need everything to go perfectly? Not sure what you are getting at. I think the other 19 horses would also need things to go their way to win.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

None of this changes the fact that Dunkirk has not come close to beating a better field of horses than Pioneer has. The one horse of quality that he faced, he lost to. The horses behind him that day and in his first two wins weren't better than what Pioneer has faced. Now, if you wanted to compare what Pioneer has defeated to what Quality Road has defeated, your argument would have more relevance. But to compare it to what Dunkirk has beaten is kinda....no, very.....stupid.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

None of this changes the fact that Dunkirk has not come close to beating a better field of horses than Pioneer has. The one horse of quality that he faced, he lost to. The horses behind him that day and in his first two wins weren't better than what Pioneer has faced. Now, if you wanted to compare what Pioneer has defeated to what Quality Road has defeated, your argument would have more relevance. But to compare it to what Dunkirk has beaten is kinda....no, very.....stupid.

Your point about the horses that Dunkirk has ACTUALLY beaten makes good sense. If he gets up and beats Quality Road then the argument is valid.

Dunkirk is faster, has won on dirt, and I believe will love the 1 1/4. POTN is slow, never ran on dirt, and after watching his last 2 races I have a feeling he will move way too early in the Derby and flatten out.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Not to mention Chocolate Candy is probably the 3rd-best horse POTN has beaten this year.

I'm sure stonegossard is about 5 seconds away from reminding everyone that I said the economy was "not that bad" a year ago. But no matter how dumb of me that was, saying POTN has beaten horrendous horses this year is as asinine a statement as I have seen in a long time.

It's almost as if he's only watched one race all year. And say what you want about the SA Derby field, but it's going to produce three Derby starters.

Nah Justin, you embarassed yourself enough with that whole ordeal. Nothing I can say can even come close to that. Maybe I will take a sledgehammer to my head 10 to 15 times and then post something. Even then it will be tough to match your brilliance from last year.

Actually his Robert Lewis race was against some nice horses. My bad. But his last two were against some real duds.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Nah Justin, you embarassed yourself enough with that whole ordeal. Nothing I can say can even come close to that. Maybe I will take a sledgehammer to my head 10 to 15 times and then post something. Even then it will be tough to match your brilliance from last year.

Actually his Robert Lewis race was against some nice horses. My bad. But his last two were against some real duds.

Hilarious.

You are a bona fide jackass.

[ezgoerbaby]

I actually kind of like Chocolate Candy...but, that must be because I'm a girl and I like the prettiest horsie with the cutest name. That, and I like chocolate....a lot.

I just think it's difficult to get a real read on the synthetics horses...maybe they jump up huge with the move to dirt...not unlike IWR...maybe they don't...it's a crapshoot.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Hilarious.

You are a bona fide jackass.

Justin,

You cemented yourself in the idiot hall of fame last year. After you came out of hiding (that was impressive on your part, really...you were wrong , so you high tailed it........reather gutless on your part) you still have not lost your lock on moronic commentary on here.

The fact that you have some kind of horse racing blog on here shows just have far the internet has gone. Scary.

Keep up the good work.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Justin,

You cemented yourself in the idiot hall of fame last year. After you came out of hiding (that was impressive on your part, really...you were wrong , so you high tailed it........reather gutless on your part) you still have not lost your lock on moronic commentary on here.

The fact that you have some kind of horse racing blog on here shows just have far the internet has gone. Scary.

Keep up the good work.

So, the fact that I was wrong about the state of the American economy is somehow an indictment on the entire internet because I have a blog that people read? Interesting logic.

And yes, as soon as I realized the economy was heading south, I said to myself "Ya know, I probably should stay away from DerbyTrail.com for a while."

Also, you are an idiot.