Mullins/Gato Go Win SCR story emerging

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by doll0608

Just to clarify a few things about the detention barns at NYRA:

If you are one minute late to the detention barns you are fined and scratched.

Everything is searched when you go in...All bags are emptied, even your electric cords are checked.
There are security cameras in place in all barns.

You can only bring unopened drinks into the holding area. At first they wouldn't allow gatorade but they allow that now.

You have to have someone with your horse pretty much the whole time. There needs to be someone there for the pre-race vet exam, Lasix, and if you are in a race that is selected fro pre-race CO-2 testing.

As for having NYRA staff handling your horses, No way in hell. The horses are removed from their familiar surroundings and moved into total chaos. There are people moving around, horses in and out. They need someone there that knows the horse and knows how to keep them calm before they race.

This is actually consistent with what Mullins said. If everything was searched and emptied, why didn't they confiscate the Air Power and syringe when he entered?

The attempt to cheat is so outrageously stupid, it's easier for me to believe the guy somehow thought what he was doing was okay. I know that will not be a popular view here, but how else can you explain him trying to do something so stupid when there are security guards and security cameras?

--Dunbar

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

This is actually consistent with what Mullins said. If everything was searched and emptied, why didn't they confiscate the Air Power and syringe when he entered?

The attempt to cheat is so outrageously stupid, it's easier for me to believe the guy somehow thought what he was doing was okay. I know that will not be a popular view here, but how else can you explain him trying to do something so stupid when there are security guards and security cameras?

--Dunbar

But it was extremely stupid to say that about New York when his fate is in the NYRA's hands, not to mention IEAH'es. It sure doesn't look like many who posted here took the time to read any or all of the links posted on the thread. Maybe that's why those people are confused.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

But it was extremely stupid to say that about New York when his fate is in the NYRA's hands, not to mention IEAH'es. It sure doesn't look like many who posted here took the time to read any or all of the links posted on the thread. Maybe that's why those people are confused.

Maybe all those confused people dont believe Mullins story? I mean his word is worth so much. He would always tell the truth.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Maybe all those confused people dont believe Mullins story? I mean his word is worth so much. He would always tell the truth.

From their post's it was obvious they didn't even know the facts as stated in the articles. They kept bringing up questions that had already been answered. Even the post right before mine asked if they "caught" Mullins before or after.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

From their post's it was obvious they didn't even know the facts as stated in the articles. They kept bringing up questions that had already been answered. Even the post right before mine asked if they "caught" Mullins before or after.

I read that they caught him before. I was asking for clarification. Maybe I should have asked, "do they suspect he had something else in his system that might have disappeared after a race" I didn't read if they had already given him lasix.

[Danzig]

since nothing can be administered, and he admitted to applying the creme to the horses nostrils, is that a violation as well? of course having the syringe was against the rules, but i haven't really seen anyone talk about the ointment.

[Danzig]

from drf:


Mullins said it wasn't until after he administered the Air Power to Gato Go Win that security guards began asking questions.

mullins doing a dance about whether IWR got anything before the gotham. he said air power was sent over to the det barn with the colt that day as well. mullins claims he had two ny guys take the colt over that day, that he didn't go to the barn at all, and his own guys couldn't get licensed.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

But it was extremely stupid to say that about New York when his fate is in the NYRA's hands, not to mention IEAH'es. It sure doesn't look like many who posted here took the time to read any or all of the links posted on the thread. Maybe that's why those people are confused.

I agree that his comments were stupid, though if you are taking the "outrage" defense, Mullins comments are consistent.

What I don't get (and I have read the linked articles) is how he thought he would get away with such a risky move in the first place. It's like a bizarro story where nothing really makes sense.

Then again, I should remember that people do often have a warped sense of what they can get away with, to a degree that challenges objective reason. Eliot Spitzer comes to mind.

That said, it should be possible to figure out if this comment by Mullins is true:

“They looked at everything I carried in, so when they let me through [with AirPower], in my mind, everything was fine,” Mullins said. “Everything was out in the open. Two investigators watched me give the horse the treatment then five minutes later they wanted to see it. If they saw the AirPower and dosing syringe on me the whole time, then why didn’t they stop me?

Was the Air Power "out in the open" or wasn't it? Was the syringe "out in the open" or wasn't it? Will the security people deny this?

--Dunbar

[RolloTomasi]

I don't know if the respective trainers ever suffered any penalties beyond their horses being scratched, but just in the last 2 years or so, Jack Van Berg and Ron McAnally faced similar situations to the Mullins one. Van Berg had his stakes filly, The Golden Noodle, scratched from a graded stakes at Del Mar because it was administered a flavored mouthwash in front of the security guard assigned to the horse. Also at Del Mar, McAnally's colt, Men's Magazine was scratched from the opening day Oceanside Stakes when its groom gave it an oral anti-ulcer medication with a security guard present.

[Left Bank]

I thought detention barns were there for keeping horses from getting ANYTHING before a race!????

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

I thought detention barns were there for keeping horses from getting ANYTHING before a race!????

Bring the guard at the front a medium well done filet, maybe a couple of Yankees tickets......probably gets you in.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I don't know if the respective trainers ever suffered any penalties beyond their horses being scratched, but just in the last 2 years or so, Jack Van Berg and Ron McAnally faced similar situations to the Mullins one. Van Berg had his stakes filly, The Golden Noodle, scratched from a graded stakes at Del Mar because it was administered a flavored mouthwash in front of the security guard assigned to the horse. Also at Del Mar, McAnally's colt, Men's Magazine was scratched from the opening day Oceanside Stakes when its groom gave it an oral anti-ulcer medication with a security guard present.

Doesnt matter who does it or what it is , if its not water being used to rinse the horses mouth before the race it is illegal . Call it being stupid or cagey either way it doesnt excuse breaking the rules , I would think any trainer shipping to a racetrack to run would for their own protection find out what the rules are , if they dont shame on them.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Honu

Doesnt matter who does it or what it is , if its not water being used to rinse the horses mouth before the race it is illegal . Call it being stupid or cagey either way it doesnt excuse breaking the rules , I would think any trainer shipping to a racetrack to run would for their own protection find out what the rules are , if they dont shame on them.

True, but I wonder if this story would be a lot less inflammatory if Mullins had not administered the Air Power personally. As far as I know, neither Van Berg or McAnally were handed any suspensions and certainly there was not as much shouting for blood, if any.

What's a bit foolish on Mullins part, post-incident, is his statement that he uses Air Power "all the time" in California, which some people might take to mean he uses it on raceday. Of course, like you say, its just as illegal (on raceday) in CA as it is in NY.

[Mustanada]

I have read all the articles and posts here so far on Mullins. Unfortunately I sense NYRA can't take a big lead on banning or suspending Mullins without exposing themselves for not being vigilant in stopping this upon entrance to the detention barn.
Karen Murphy will now punch holes in this incident and ask how Air Power got past the entrance inspection for one. There seems to be some back and forth with dialogue between officials and Mullins that are a little confusing.
I'm not a fan of this guy at all. But I think, in the end he may walk. That was painful to write.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Honu

Doesnt matter who does it or what it is , if its not water being used to rinse the horses mouth before the race it is illegal . Call it being stupid or cagey either way it doesnt excuse breaking the rules , I would think any trainer shipping to a racetrack to run would for their own protection find out what the rules are , if they dont shame on them.

Of course. And all of this is assuming that all that was in the "Air Power" bottle was in fact Air power, which by all accounts is a joke. It's a complete friggin abomination. The douche needs to lose his license.