Workout analysis

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by GBBob

One thing you'll never be able to address quantifiably is how fast the workout was supposed to be. The only time I've ever seen Chuck get upset at workouts is when the horse went too fast. So if a trainer gives directions to the rider to go 102.00 and another trainer tells the rider to blow him out in 59.0, is one horse "faster" than another? Not really...that's why workouts are a very difficult handicapping tool.

The best advice in this thread.

Automatically assuming fast workouts are better than slower workouts, even with first-time starters, is a bad handicapping strategy. It's much more productive to try to learn trainers' patterns with their workouts. Some trainers (Wesley Ward, Bob Baffert come to mind) often work their horses much quicker than others (Steve Asmussen, Bill Mott). It's also more useful to pay attention to length and spacing of workouts when it comes to first-timers than times.

I for one wish they started publishing "workout figures" based on times, but only so I could bet against horses that had big A.M. figs.

[Payson Dave]

time only counts when you are in jail

[jrajf]

I used to love betting hores that worked on the turf and were racing on dirt..kind of a give away that they were "conditioning"..somewhat arcan and less nunerous now but they are still there..dabbling with the sythentic to dirt angle now and havent really caught anything..yet

[jrajf]

works for horses too

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

i think that works are usefull in some cases. they tell a story about what the horse is doing . in the case of firsters its pretty easy to tell who has the right stuff. works for some trainers are nothing to write home about but in other cases you can see what they are doing. these must be at places where the
drf clockers are present..not phone in times as in some prvt training centers.