First 2009 March Madness thread

[herkhorse]

Cleveland State

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Cleveland State

They earned the hell out of that game. The only reason it was close was because Butler got every borderline call from the chickenshit refs.

Originally Posted by jwkniska

any beat by a bubble team early in a conference tourney should get them in. big east deserves 8.

The conference can't "deserve" anything. If Providence hasn't done enough to get in, they shouldn't get in. It doesn't matter what conference they play in. You don't select a team just because they're from a supposedly great conference and you think that that conference "deserves" a certain amount of bids. The Big East has three great teams, four very good ones and a bunch of mediocre-to-terrible ones. A mediocre team from the Big East doesn't deserve a bid any more than a mediocre team from any other conference.

[IrishofNDMan]

Looking at it now, if ND manages to beat West Virginia, it looks like they will probably play Lousville or Pitt, and a win against either of them and I think the commitee will give them a strong look, lots of work for the Irish, but if their shooters get hot they always have a chance.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Looking at it now, if ND manages to beat West Virginia, it looks like they will probably play Lousville or Pitt, and a win against either of them and I think the commitee will give them a strong look, lots of work for the Irish, but if their shooters get hot they always have a chance.

That's some hard hitting analysis.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Cleveland State

No surprise there. One team had everything to play for, the other team had nothing to play for. Butler probably moves down from an 8 to a 10 which is actually an easier spot to get to the sweet 16 from. And if they moved from a 7 to a 10 nothing changed but what color jerseys they will wear.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

No surprise there. One team had everything to play for, the other team had nothing to play for. Butler probably moves down from an 8 to a 10 which is actually an easier spot to get to the sweet 16 from. And if they moved from a 7 to a 10 nothing changed but what color jerseys they will wear.

It really isn't.

In fact I'm surprised the WCC didn't have Gonzaga ole' their game against St. Mary's, it's worth a million bucks to the conference (at minimum). The A-10 does it every year.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by philcski

It really isn't.

In fact I'm surprised the WCC didn't have Gonzaga ole' their game against St. Mary's, it's worth a million bucks to the conference (at minimum). The A-10 does it every year.

Yeah, although in Gonzaga's case it could have been the difference between a 5 and a 7 which is very significant.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yeah, although in Gonzaga's case it could have been the difference between a 5 and a 7 which is very significant.

I think Gonzaga will be higher than a 5.

Originally Posted by philcski

I watched the NDSU game last night. They are pretty darned good and a dangerous 14-15 seed.

They are, but Ben Woodside can't play like a bitch like he did for the first 35 minutes of last night's game. The guy averages 23 per, and he was playing like he's Avery Johnson or Earl Watson. Only in the last five minutes did he actually look to score.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I think Gonzaga will be higher than a 5.



They are, but Ben Woodside can't play like a bitch like he did for the first 35 minutes of last night's game. The guy averages 23 per, and he was playing like he's Avery Johnson or Earl Watson. Only in the last five minutes did he actually look to score.

agreed, he's gotta come out and light it up, look to score every play.

i think Gonzaga will be very disappointed with their seed. on a blind comparison their resume isn't that strong. 4 of their top 5 wins are against St Mary's and Tennessee, they have a not-so-good loss to Portland State, and their RPI/SOS is much worse than previous years. I'm thinking 6-7 range.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by philcski

agreed, he's gotta come out and light it up, look to score every play.

i think Gonzaga will be very disappointed with their seed. on a blind comparison their resume isn't that strong. 4 of their top 5 wins are against St Mary's and Tennessee, they have a not-so-good loss to Portland State, and their RPI/SOS is much worse than previous years. I'm thinking 6-7 range.

Yeah, but the committee gives a lot of strength to how a team finishes the season. Remember when Syracuse was on the wrong side of the bubble, then made that run in the Big East tourney and ended up with a 5-seed? No one's hotter than Gonzaga now and are there 16 teams that'll get a higher seed? Oklahoma, UNC, pitt, uconn, lville, kansas, mizzou, nova, washington, memphis, michigan state, purdue, duke, wake forest are the only ones I can think of for sure that'll be higher seeded. I think they've got a good shot at a 4.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by philcski

agreed, he's gotta come out and light it up, look to score every play.

i think Gonzaga will be very disappointed with their seed. on a blind comparison their resume isn't that strong. 4 of their top 5 wins are against St Mary's and Tennessee, they have a not-so-good loss to Portland State, and their RPI/SOS is much worse than previous years. I'm thinking 6-7 range.

I'm glad I was wrong on this one.