Party on dude

[Riot]

How about wasteful spending on Lavish Whitehouse parties to start?

Wow - to quote your "source" on that, we have three Wednesday receptions - ohmygawd, three! - such as, "... the foot-stomping sounds of Sweet Honey in the Rock, a female a cappella group, filled the East Room for a Black History Month program first lady Michelle Obama held for nearly 200 sixth- and seventh-graders from around the city."

Yeah. That's some hard wild partying and outrageous lavish spending.

So you didn't pay any attention to what he has done specifically for the environment and pollution within the past five days?

I am sorry you are right here. He is totally for the environment. Sure he tossed some money into some governement programs and initiatives. Yeah he wants to pass cap and trade. It all makes sense.

No, that's not it.

[Danzig]

nothing like a non issue to sidetrack people from real problems-you know the treasury still is undermanned due to more folks pulling their names from consideration?
the #1 crisis right now is the banking industry-and our dept of the treasury is understaffed.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

nothing like a non issue to sidetrack people from real problems-you know the treasury still is undermanned due to more folks pulling their names from consideration?
the #1 crisis right now is the banking industry-and our dept of the treasury is understaffed.

Why would anyone with a clue want to work for a dept that no one seems to think can fix these issues with their current policies? Not to mention that being a punching bag in front of Congress during the vetting process doesnt look like much fun.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why would anyone with a clue want to work for a dept that no one seems to think can fix these issues with their current policies? Not to mention that being a punching bag in front of Congress during the vetting process doesnt look like much fun.

that's the thing-just when we need people in there to do what needs to be done, no one seems willing or able to take on the task. part of the problem filling positions is that obama has made the requirements very difficult to meet-good luck finding someone who didn't work for the banking industry in some capacity with the wherewithal to work in that field...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's the thing-just when we need people in there to do what needs to be done, no one seems willing or able to take on the task. part of the problem filling positions is that obama has made the requirements very difficult to meet-good luck finding someone who didn't work for the banking industry in some capacity with the wherewithal to work in that field...

Which is exactly my argument against the Federal govt being involved with horse racing regulation. Who exactly is going to fill the roles needed to successfully enact realistic and helpful regulation? The current 'leaders'?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Which is exactly my argument against the Federal govt being involved with horse racing regulation. Who exactly is going to fill the roles needed to successfully enact realistic and helpful regulation? The current 'leaders'?

lol
any time anyone says we need more federal involvement, i cringe. from what i've read over the years, the further you are from the seat of federal govt, the more corruption, anarchy, etc you have. probably explains why california is one of the worst states as far as medicare, medicaid fraud, etc. putting feds in charge of anything is like having inmates run an asylum.

as far as racing, they need standardized rules moreso than one governing body-and certainly not anything having to do with feds.

[wiphan]

There is one easy way to fix the banking problem. Fix the Mark to Market accounting regulations and almost 90% of the problems would be gone

[Cannon Shell]

Cap and trade is a waste of time and it is bad economic policy at the absolute worst time. It is strictly pandering to the environmental lobby which unfortunately is growing. European countries that have followed the Kyoto treaty and have enlisted cap and trade have actually not decreased emissions but some are increasing faster than the US which did not participate.

Energy prices right now are low and emissions are decreasing as the economy slows. Enacting policy that increases energy costs for business is just another anti-business and anti-recovery policy passed by this administration. This is just another poorly timed liberal social issue that will ultimately increase costs for the consumer during the midst of a huge recession. And the irony of it all is that the poorest among us will be hurt the most. Of course most of those poor voters are too stupid to realize that environmental issues will cost them much more than the "rich, polluting companies" in the form of a regressive tax.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Cap and trade is a waste of time and it is bad economic policy at the absolute worst time. It is strictly pandering to the environmental lobby which unfortunately is growing. European countries that have followed the Kyoto treaty and have enlisted cap and trade have actually not decreased emissions but some are increasing faster than the US which did not participate.

Energy prices right now are low and emissions are decreasing as the economy slows. Enacting policy that increases energy costs for business is just another anti-business and anti-recovery policy passed by this administration. This is just another poorly timed liberal social issue that will ultimately increase costs for the consumer during the midst of a huge recession. And the irony of it all is that the poorest among us will be hurt the most. Of course most of those poor voters are too stupid to realize that environmental issues will cost them much more than the "rich, polluting companies" in the form of a regressive tax.

the dems seem to be attempting to push thru every item on their agenda that they've ever wanted passed right now, while everyone is still dewey-eyed from the election, and while they have the ready excuse of 'everything we're doing is to help get us out of the mess we're in'... energy costs being down is one of the few blessings we have right now, and is something they should NOT be messing with. there's enough bad stuff going on- those attempting to find a new job are faced with lower wages (flooded labor market-when just a few years ago most companies couldn't find adequate staff), and with the credit crunch, people are getting assailed from all sides. but at least gas is cheaper-for now.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the dems seem to be attempting to push thru every item on their agenda that they've ever wanted passed right now, while everyone is still dewey-eyed from the election, and while they have the ready excuse of 'everything we're doing is to help get us out of the mess we're in'... energy costs being down is one of the few blessings we have right now, and is something they should NOT be messing with. there's enough bad stuff going on- those attempting to find a new job are faced with lower wages (flooded labor market-when just a few years ago most companies couldn't find adequate staff), and with the credit crunch, people are getting assailed from all sides. but at least gas is cheaper-for now.

Yeah gas is cheaper and all of a sudden the Pols start floating out an idea about a mileage tax. And people complained about the Bush administrations intrusion on their 'rights'. 99.99% of people dont need to worry about the govt wiretapping their phones. 100% of auto owners will have govt intrusion in our lives daily if this idea ever picks up steam.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah gas is cheaper and all of a sudden the Pols start floating out an idea about a mileage tax. And people complained about the Bush administrations intrusion on their 'rights'. 99.99% of people dont need to worry about the govt wiretapping their phones. 100% of auto owners will have govt intrusion in our lives daily if this idea ever picks up steam.

problem with the gas right now is lack of demand hits our highways-much lower tax money flowing into the treasury from gas taxes-so no money for highway spending- one of the items they want to spend money on in their 'stimulus' package. i'm not surprised that they're looking at alternatives to boost income, but i don't see any way that a mileage tax is going to fly.
all i can say is thank god for a company vehicle.