Brother Derek is a fraud...

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Why, ArlJim. Don't you know? A horse is a fraud when it loses. If Bernardini loses next time out, he will be a fraud who will have been exposed by running against older horses. If Lava Man loses next time out, he will be a fraud who will have been exposed by running against another good horse, The Tin Man. If Invasor loses next time out, he will be exposed as a fraud because he never before faced tough competition.

You get the picture.

--Dunbar

Hes a fraud huh? Well then so is the author of this thread.
Especially since the author claims to be active in thoroughbred ownership and breeding.
Horses go through form cycles, and don't remain at the same level of talent throughout a year or a career. To insult a grade one winner as fraud is just ridiculous, especially when coming off a layoff.
Lemme ask you a couple of questions Joel if I might. Hope you will respond.
1) Since you obviously were of the strong opinion that this horse was a fraud, at 2-5 today, how much money did you make betting he race? certainly you must have made a bundle.
2) As a breeder of LA breds, I would think that you would appreciate a "lowly" cal bred winning grade one races and accomplishing as much as Bro derek has. Hes yet more proof that those who enter the business in a humble way can succeed.
So i guess my question is, what chance do you think that there is that you will breed or race a grade one winner in your ownership/breeder career?
My guess will be about 1 in 6000. Thats about the ratio of grade winners born in every crop(very rough guess). If you should ever breed or own a grade one winner, I will fly down there and shine your shoes for you. But lets just say I'm not gonna go out and buy any polish.
You really should know better Joel.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Hes a fraud huh? Well then so is the author of this thread.
Especially since the author claims to be active in thoroughbred ownership and breeding.
Horses go through form cycles, and don't remain at the same level of talent throughout a year or a career. To insult a grade one winner as fraud is just ridiculous, especially when coming off a layoff.
Lemme ask you a couple of questions Joel if I might. Hope you will respond.
1) Since you obviously were of the strong opinion that this horse was a fraud, at 2-5 today, how much money did you make betting he race? certainly you must have made a bundle.
2) As a breeder of LA breds, I would think that you would appreciate a "lowly" cal bred winning grade one races and accomplishing as much as Bro derek has. Hes yet more proof that those who enter the business in a humble way can succeed.
So i guess my question is, what chance do you think that there is that you will breed or race a grade one winner in your ownership/breeder career?
My guess will be about 1 in 6000. Thats about the ratio of grade winners born in every crop(very rough guess). If you should ever breed or own a grade one winner, I will fly down there and shine your shoes for you. But lets just say I'm not gonna go out and buy any polish.
You really should know better Joel.

.........hey, i caught that 4/2 exacta ...... bout the only race i hit at that horrible del mar.

Originally Posted by alysheba4

.........hey, i caught that 4/2 exacta ...... bout the only race i hit at that horrible del mar.

You just stole my thunder you *****!! LOL!
I was about to end this with the punch line.
Yesterday at the Spa, I couldnt catch a break. Discouraged and about to walk out, I realized that the Bro Derek race was about to go off.
I liked the winner, and thought it was conceivable that Bro Derek could be out of the exacta. So I boxed up 2-4 and 4-5 for the same amount of money. And hoped that I could get the 4 home and have Derek not fire off the layoff.
I got lucky and he didn't.
The point is that i myself had no confidence in Bro yesterday at all. None. And I cashed by best ticket all day on that exacta (22 per buck was quite huge given that only 3 horses in a 5 horse field had any chance). But I'm not gonna be dumb enough to use that race he ran as an "end all and be all" of judging what he is, ane more importantly, what he was.