Bobby Jindal's response

[Danzig]

i'm not sure what obama's term as senator has to do with how bobby jindal did in the response last night. the cynic in me says the reps had jindal do the response so they could show the dems aren't the only ones with people of color in their party.

[SniperSB23]

Is someone having fun with Wikipedia or did he really choose to go by Bobby because he was inspired by Bobby Brady?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm not sure what obama's term as senator has to do with how bobby jindal did in the response last night. the cynic in me says the reps had jindal do the response so they could show the dems aren't the only ones with people of color in their party.

It has nothing to do with anything just like his qualifications to be president, I was just going along with the part of the thread saying that people were fooled but that he is not a moron , yet . Thats all, please continue.

[ArlJim78]

I think Republicans have only two shots to take down Obama in 2012.
If the ecomomy turns into a genuine depression type catastrophe (I'm frankly seeing this as more and more likely), or if they find someone amongst them with real gravitas, real charisma. Its not that hard to come up with a winning message, frankly there was not that much wrong with what Jindal said, its just that he does not inspire and doesn't appear presidential. If Republicans nominate someone like him, which would not be surprising at all, they're doomed again in my view. Maybe he would be a step up from Bush because he is genuinely smart, but its going to take more than that.

since Reagan, Republicans only nominate people that don't communicate that well in speeches or interviews. Bush 41, Dole, Bush43, McCain, none of them what you would call natural speakers, not glib or charismatic.
Bush41 won because he took the handoff from Reagan and I think had only Dukakis to beat, Bush43 won because the Dem's also nominated a similar stiff in Kerry.
now Dem's have a real star with a cult following. forget that there is no substance and that he lies continuously and has accelerated us on the path to economic ruin, those things may or may not matter by the time the next election rolls around. They'll get trounced again if they don't go with someone sharp and dynamic. They need to call up a rookie phenom from the farm team because I don't see anyone that fits the bill out there now.

[Danzig]

i don't think anyone was fooled by anyone. obama is the recipient of being the best of a bad lot, just like the last few that were elected-and the war and economy finished off whatever chance the reps had-that and mccain being a rotten choice, as well as his vp choice being worse. either way, he's got a godawful hell of a mess on his hands. and the vultures are circling...

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think anyone was fooled by anyone. obama is the recipient of being the best of a bad lot, just like the last few that were elected-and the war and economy finished off whatever chance the reps had-that and mccain being a rotten choice, as well as his vp choice being worse. either way, he's got a godawful hell of a mess on his hands. and the vultures are circling...

For the most part, I agree with your thoughts here, but you need to address the fact that Obama was bringing hope and change....and it was business as usual for the Dems ever since. Dems can't brush it off by saying it was campaign rhetoric.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

For the most part, I agree with your thoughts here, but you need to address the fact that Obama was bringing hope and change....and it was business as usual for the Dems ever since. Dems can't brush it off by saying it was campaign rhetoric.

yeah, this whole 30 days has exposed the entire scam. this economy fallout has been coming for years, i think we really only delayed the inevitable a year or so. i'm not sure what everyone was expecting, but things are really a mess right now. anyone complaining about what's been done, or not done, so far is being completely unrealistic imo. back when most of the campaigning was going on, things were not as bad as they are now. things have really spiralled down badly. does anyone giving obama grief for how things have been in his first month (month!) really think anyone could have done things better? it's been a month. it's taken far longer than that to get to this point, how would it take so short a time to fix it??

i don't think anyone voted for obama for change as in we're not going to act like govt has for over two hundred years. they changed parties.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, this whole 30 days has exposed the entire scam. this economy fallout has been coming for years, i think we really only delayed the inevitable a year or so. i'm not sure what everyone was expecting, but things are really a mess right now. anyone complaining about what's been done, or not done, so far is being completely unrealistic imo. back when most of the campaigning was going on, things were not as bad as they are now. things have really spiralled down badly. does anyone giving obama grief for how things have been in his first month (month!) really think anyone could have done things better? it's been a month. it's taken far longer than that to get to this point, how would it take so short a time to fix it??

i don't think anyone voted for obama for change as in we're not going to act like govt has for over two hundred years. they changed parties.

So...you're are onboard with the new 410Bil package(with 8957 earmarks)? The Dems are convinced Americans are stupid and need to be governed. Just another step on the slippery slope...

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, this whole 30 days has exposed the entire scam. this economy fallout has been coming for years, i think we really only delayed the inevitable a year or so. i'm not sure what everyone was expecting, but things are really a mess right now. anyone complaining about what's been done, or not done, so far is being completely unrealistic imo. back when most of the campaigning was going on, things were not as bad as they are now. things have really spiralled down badly. does anyone giving obama grief for how things have been in his first month (month!) really think anyone could have done things better? it's been a month. it's taken far longer than that to get to this point, how would it take so short a time to fix it??

i don't think anyone voted for obama for change as in we're not going to act like govt has for over two hundred years. they changed parties.

The U.S. invented the car and Al Gore invented the internet enough said. Now go eat some Gov cheese and watch Al gore travel on fossil fuels explaining why we shouldn't use fossil fuels.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, this whole 30 days has exposed the entire scam. this economy fallout has been coming for years, i think we really only delayed the inevitable a year or so. i'm not sure what everyone was expecting, but things are really a mess right now. anyone complaining about what's been done, or not done, so far is being completely unrealistic imo. back when most of the campaigning was going on, things were not as bad as they are now. things have really spiralled down badly. does anyone giving obama grief for how things have been in his first month (month!) really think anyone could have done things better? it's been a month. it's taken far longer than that to get to this point, how would it take so short a time to fix it??

i don't think anyone voted for obama for change as in we're not going to act like govt has for over two hundred years. they changed parties.

no one blames Obama for the mess but his first 30 days have produced the largest govt spending bill in history that was written for the most part by the people who were supposed to be reined in by "change". Then this week he has a grand plan for cutting the deficit. Someone tell him that he can stop campaigning now and start to deal with the issues now that he has paid off all the special interest groups that helped him get elected. Like no President has done that you say? Well What about rising above politics as usual like he said he would? In 30 days he has turned into the largest spending, liberal pleasing typical politician of all time. What can he do for an encore the next 30? ban the opposition party? (oops the Fairness Doctrine wants to start that process) Cap everyones wages? See if he can make corporate taxes the highest in the world? Not far to go on that. Continue the class war where the successful are disparaged and the lazy are "entitled"?