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Old 02-20-2009, 01:15 PM
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I never said that Bush was off limits. I just said that more often than not he is the main or only reply to a question or inquiry about Democrats or liberals. It is pretty consistent in this and other boards that most of the posters that dont agree with something that is said about democrats, liberals or their policies slam Bush as opposed to backing their reasoning why the original post was not correct.

here is a typical Q & A

Conservative - Obama's stimlus package is not goign to work because it is way more govt spending on social issues than it is on true economic stimlus.

Liberal - Yeah Bush sucks

Conservative - The "Fairness Doctrine" is an outdated piece of trash legistalion that is not only biased against one form of media, it is bad economic policy for the struggling radio industry.

Liberal - Bush is a war criminal and Cheney is the devil

Conservative - The housing 'bailout' is going to reward the people who least deserve the help and may wind up making the issues worse while wasting hundreds of billions of dollars.

Liberal - Bush and his greedy CEO buddies are criminals

When Obama wipes his butt with his left hand istead of his right, Limbaugh is going to find fault, Dellinger is going to start a new thread and Timmi will agree with it. The hypocrisy of the right and their indigination that a Democrat is in power supercedes any type of constructive criticism that they might have. Where was all this hand wringing the last 8 years? Dellinger has started more threads in the past 6 weeks about politics than in the previous 3 years on DT. And that is where Bush comes in....A lot of what he did is responsible for why we are here just as much as lot of what Clinton did affected Bush's first years in office. I totally agree that there is a lot to fault in this stimulus package, but the legitimate protests and valid points are just lost in the barrage of negativity that the right is spewing.

And in the grand scheme of things, many liberals still feel that whatever faults Obama has in either in appointments or policy, it still pales in comparison to the attrocities the Bush administration encouraged....and that is why Bush will always be relevant in this type of conversations at some level. To the left it's a huge double standard.
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:41 PM
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When Obama wipes his butt with his left hand istead of his right, Limbaugh is going to find fault, Dellinger is going to start a new thread and Timmi will agree with it. The hypocrisy of the right and their indigination that a Democrat is in power supercedes any type of constructive criticism that they might have. Where was all this hand wringing the last 8 years? Dellinger has started more threads in the past 6 weeks about politics than in the previous 3 years on DT. And that is where Bush comes in....A lot of what he did is responsible for why we are here just as much as lot of what Clinton did affected Bush's first years in office. I totally agree that there is a lot to fault in this stimulus package, but the legitimate protests and valid points are just lost in the barrage of negativity that the right is spewing.

And in the grand scheme of things, many liberals still feel that whatever faults Obama has in either in appointments or policy, it still pales in comparison to the attrocities the Bush administration encouraged....and that is why Bush will always be relevant in this type of conversations at some level. To the left it's a huge double standard.
Give him some time. He hasn't had enough time in office to phuck it up, but I'm sure he will. We elected a man into office that really had no leadership experience whatsoever ... IMO that will be his biggest downfall and that inexperience will rear its ugly head at some point.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:46 PM
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Give him some time. He hasn't had enough time in office to phuck it up, but I'm sure he will. We elected a man into office that really had no leadership experience whatsoever ... IMO that will be his biggest downfall and that inexperience will rear its ugly head at some point.
I remember the same type of things being said about Clinton when he first took office.

He did a spectacular job.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:56 PM
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I remember the same type of things being said about Clinton when he first took office.

He did a spectacular job.
You do?

Clinton had much more experience than this guy.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:13 PM
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When talking about a politican ... I think experience is something overrated anyway. Kind of like the longer they've been around the more likely they become to be seduced by greed and temptations. Leadership is also very overrated imo.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:15 PM
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When talking about a politican ... I think experience is something overrated anyway. Kind of like the longer they've been around the more likely they become to be seduced by greed and temptations. Leadership is also very overrated imo.
Or covering your ass which seems like what Obama is doing by bailing out Freddie and Fannie.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:42 PM
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Covering my ass how exactly?
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:49 PM
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I remember the same type of things being said about Clinton when he first took office.

He did a spectacular job.

with the help of newt
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:43 PM
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When Obama wipes his butt with his left hand istead of his right, Limbaugh is going to find fault, Dellinger is going to start a new thread and Timmi will agree with it. The hypocrisy of the right and their indigination that a Democrat is in power supercedes any type of constructive criticism that they might have. Where was all this hand wringing the last 8 years? Dellinger has started more threads in the past 6 weeks about politics than in the previous 3 years on DT. And that is where Bush comes in....A lot of what he did is responsible for why we are here just as much as lot of what Clinton did affected Bush's first years in office. I totally agree that there is a lot to fault in this stimulus package, but the legitimate protests and valid points are just lost in the barrage of negativity that the right is spewing.

And in the grand scheme of things, many liberals still feel that whatever faults Obama has in either in appointments or policy, it still pales in comparison to the attrocities the Bush administration encouraged....and that is why Bush will always be relevant in this type of conversations at some level. To the left it's a huge double standard.
I think that this post about sums up what I am talking about. We arent talking about Limbaugh or Olberman, we are talking about what gets posted here.

The right has hardly spewed negativity towards Obama directly. Despite your claims, the right has been so concerned with the 'stimlus' and now the housing farce that the Obama administration has almost gotten a pass for poor job it has done in vetting its appointments. Your second paragraph absolutely sums up why liberals are sticking their heads in the sand on the issues. The absolute hatred of Bush overcomes all reasonable thinking.

The issues at hand are not being debated, just Bush, Bush, Bush. And that is simply tedious. If you cant debate the issues, blame Bush. If you can debate the issues and use things that Bush did wrong then more power to you.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:04 PM
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Despite your claims, the right has been so concerned with the 'stimlus' and now the housing farce that the Obama administration has almost gotten a pass for poor job it has done in vetting its appointments. Your second paragraph absolutely sums up why liberals are sticking their heads in the sand on the issues. The absolute hatred of Bush overcomes all reasonable thinking.
Cannon, you can still dislike Obama's appointments and housing farce and hate Bush. Try it sometime.
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:48 PM
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When Obama wipes his butt with his left hand istead of his right, Limbaugh is going to find fault, Dellinger is going to start a new thread and Timmi will agree with it. The hypocrisy of the right and their indigination that a Democrat is in power supercedes any type of constructive criticism that they might have. Where was all this hand wringing the last 8 years? Dellinger has started more threads in the past 6 weeks about politics than in the previous 3 years on DT. And that is where Bush comes in....A lot of what he did is responsible for why we are here just as much as lot of what Clinton did affected Bush's first years in office. I totally agree that there is a lot to fault in this stimulus package, but the legitimate protests and valid points are just lost in the barrage of negativity that the right is spewing.

And in the grand scheme of things, many liberals still feel that whatever faults Obama has in either in appointments or policy, it still pales in comparison to the attrocities the Bush administration encouraged....and that is why Bush will always be relevant in this type of conversations at some level. To the left it's a huge double standard.
Yesterday Rush told his audience that the richest 1% of Americans, "should be treated like royalty," because they pay all of the taxes. Now, Limbaugh says some pretty strange things....but that one really shocked me (and yes, I do listen to him a couple of times a week). Later in the same segment, he repeated his statement with even more emphasis: "THEY SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE ROYALTY!!"

Now, that seems like a really strange strategy to employ when attempting to rally the troops behind conservative economic principles, but I guess when they are completely out of ideas, and all of their old ones have been proven ineffective, direct appeals to embracing aristocracy might be all they have left.
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:06 PM
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Yesterday Rush told his audience that the richest 1% of Americans, "should be treated like royalty," because they pay all of the taxes. Now, Limbaugh says some pretty strange things....but that one really shocked me (and yes, I do listen to him a couple of times a week). Later in the same segment, he repeated his statement with even more emphasis: "THEY SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE ROYALTY!!"

Now, that seems like a really strange strategy to employ when attempting to rally the troops behind conservative economic principles, but I guess when they are completely out of ideas, and all of their old ones have been proven ineffective, direct appeals to embracing aristocracy might be all they have left.
I didn't listen but can venture a guess....the richest spend more, have more R and D for their businesses and hire more people. More venture capital to spend.....so they deserve better treatment!
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Old 02-21-2009, 11:31 AM
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I didn't listen but can venture a guess....the richest spend more, have more R and D for their businesses and hire more people. More venture capital to spend.....so they deserve better treatment!
Don't forget they (along with cigarette smokers!) pay most of the taxes too. Except for Administration Appointees, and some Congressmen and Senators.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:29 PM
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Yesterday Rush told his audience that the richest 1% of Americans, "should be treated like royalty," because they pay all of the taxes. Now, Limbaugh says some pretty strange things....but that one really shocked me (and yes, I do listen to him a couple of times a week). Later in the same segment, he repeated his statement with even more emphasis: "THEY SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE ROYALTY!!"

Now, that seems like a really strange strategy to employ when attempting to rally the troops behind conservative economic principles, but I guess when they are completely out of ideas, and all of their old ones have been proven ineffective, direct appeals to embracing aristocracy might be all they have left.
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