Can RoundPound beat Fleet Indian ??

Originally Posted by oracle80

Euro you are being stubborn and obviously don't understand the bloodstock side of the game. Shes insured Euro, geez. If she goes down they still get the cash. Other than that they only have UPSIDE! Colts and horses can diminish in stud value with bad efforts, mares don't. Shoot once theyw in a grade one the first thing you do is call the bloodstock insurance agent and raise the value of the insurance.
Umm, you seeing the point?

I know all of this. I own horses which you dont so I know about the insurance. I am not going to debate you on this as you cant tell me something that I already dont know. I just have a feeling she wont being going in the Distaff. That is all, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I know all of this. I own horses which you dont so I know about the insurance. I am not going to debate you on this as you cant tell me something that I already dont know. I just have a feeling she wont being going in the Distaff. That is all, plain and simple.

OOOHHHH, I see. Well I purchased a grade one winner as agent, you haven't, and since one of the owners explained to me about what she was appraised at after her grade one win for insurance purposes, I kinda know how it works.

Does anyone know anything about Happy Ticket? I havent seen her since the race at Churchill?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Does anyone know anything about Happy Ticket? I havent seen her since the race at Churchill?

she raced at Del Mar about a month ago...finished 2nd.

Originally Posted by GPK

she raced at Del Mar about a month ago...finished 2nd.

Thanks Kev. I appreciate the info. I should know to come to you for any info on a horse. You have to be the king of stable mail.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Thanks Kev. I appreciate the info. I should know to come to you for any info on a horse. You have to be the king of stable mail.

No prob....glad to help.

Stable mail is getting ready to have horse #55 added to the watch list thanks to a tip from a board member.

Originally Posted by GPK

No prob....glad to help.

Stable mail is getting ready to have horse #55 added to the watch list thanks to a tip from a board member.

Have to keep us informed on horse #55 Kev. How is your back?

Euro give it up. We were having a debate and you tried to play the "I'm an owner so I know about these things card". Newsflash, owning part of a claimer does not make you an all knowing authority on everything equine, as evidenced from your earlier contention that they would be afraid to run the filly lest she breakdown and in your WORDS "but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point."
Now, obviously you don't know a damn thing about graded stakes horses and their values. You said if she injures herself and is put down she is worth nothing.
Obviously you mispoke.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Euro give it up. We were having a debate and you tried to play the "I'm an owner so I know about these things card". Newsflash, owning part of a claimer does not make you an all knowing authority on everything equine, as evidenced from your earlier contention that they would be afraid to run the filly lest she breakdown and in your WORDS "but she is worth nothing if she injures herself and is put down. If it is locked in, then why even take the chance. That is my point."
Now, obviously you don't know a damn thing about graded stakes horses and their values. You said if she injures herself and is put down she is worth nothing.
Obviously you mispoke.

Lord Oracle. I know about the insurance, but what she is prob insured for and what she can go for at the auction is different. She is prob insured for 1.5 to 2.5. She will go for double or more than that in an auction. Obviously you dont know anything about the open market. Oh, and being a agent of one graded horse doesnt make you the authority on everything that is equine. See Oracle, people like you take from the game and never put anything back into it. That is what we mid-west people call a leach.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Lord Oracle. I know about the insurance, but what she is prob insured for and what she can go for at the auction is different. She is prob insured for 1.5 to 2.5. She will go for double or more than that in an auction. Obviously you dont know anything about the open market. Oh, and being a agent of one graded horse doesnt make you the authority on everything that is equine. See Oracle, people like you take from the game and never put anything back into it. That is what we mid-west people call a leach.

Thats pretty funny. You think shes only insured for that amount? Dream on. Owners of horses like that tend to insure at the highest possible appraisal that they can get. Lans educated me a little bit about this, having owned two grade one winners himself. I found it fascinating.
Just remember when she runs in the Cup I'm gonna pull this thread and jam it in your face.
As far as not putting anything back into the game, you obviosusly don't know a thing about the game, and your ignorance shows with each passing post.
Most people who sell a horse are thrilled to sell it. Thats why they are doing it. Most people who buy one, especially privately, define a goal but lack the time or resources to attempt it themselves. Its why they outsource to people who they trust to do it. I'd think that Sandy Robbins would say I've put a tremendous amount back into his game with that purchase. Shes appraised at ten times what they paid for her and shes already won that back and given them the thrill of winning at the highest level.

Originally Posted by oracle80

OOOHHHH, I see. Well I purchased a grade one winner as agent, you haven't, and since one of the owners explained to me about what she was appraised at after her grade one win for insurance purposes, I kinda know how it works.

Oracle, you dont pay the bills. I dont care what you bought. Being an agent and actually having the financial reponsibility of paying the bills is two different things. Why dont you own any part of a horse?

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Oracle, you dont pay the bills. I dont care what you bought. Being an agent and actually having the financial reponsibility of paying the bills is two different things. Why dont you own any part of a horse?

Im thinking about buying into a partnership for a 5k claimer. Thus , that shows Im more in tune to the ins and outs of ownership than Ora. He had an explaination for all of your reasons for not running and you still wouldnt admit your error.

Originally Posted by jpops757

Im thinking about buying into a partnership for a 5k claimer. Thus , that shows Im more in tune to the ins and outs of ownership than Ora. He had an explaination for all of your reasons for not running and you still wouldnt admit your error.

It isnt an error. Lord, I just have a feeling that she wont run. Again, she will go for more than what she is insured. I know the value is locked in, but why take the risk is my point. She is going to go for prob 4.5mm or more. I dont feel that run in the BCC is going to increase her value compared to the risk. That is all I am saying. But we will see.