Andy Beyer, Dutrow, DRF

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Ricky?

Are you two tight?

never met or spoke with the man if that's what you mean by tight

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by gales0678

never met or spoke with the man if that's what you mean by tight

Then why are you call him Ricky?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Then why are you call him Ricky?

Rick , Ricky , Richard , Dick = all the same person know?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Rick , Ricky , Richard , Dick = all the same person know?

Actually, I can only recall one person on message boards referring to him as Ricky.

Makes me wonder.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Actually, I can only recall one person on message boards referring to him as Ricky.

Makes me wonder.

i will refer to him as Mr Dutrow in the future so as to not cause any confusion

will that be sufficent?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i will refer to him as Mr Dutrow in the future so as to not cause any confusion

will that be sufficent?

Well there's Anthony or Sydney also, that might cause some confusion.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by CSC

Well there's Anthony or Sydney also, that might cause some confusion.

Mr R Dutrow work ?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Actually, I can only recall one person on message boards referring to him as Ricky.

Makes me wonder.

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[Riot]

Ah, yeah you do. Anytime a discussion comes up involving trainers, and drugs you blindly defend trainers. I'm not making it up. Take a look at the discussions that have happened here.

Naw. I just refuse to jump on the "I say, therefor he's guilty" bandbox.

It's not that I don't like your opinion, you're giving yourself way too much credit. I just don't care. Like i don't care that you're a vet. I know why you defend these guys, and I called you on it.

You don't have a clue about me, so your calling me a cheat in my professional life shows how remarkably without validity much of what you have to say is.

But, to deny that these guys, who perform miracles and have had numerous issues with drugs in the past aren't doing something to get an edge makes you look silly.

So? My opinion isn't weighted by peer pressure. Sorry.

Do I trust Dutrow? See post #12

(Oh, yeah - btw, please don't assume, overspeak or just guess at what my opinion is)

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Speaking of shady trainers saying silly things.....

Here's a quote from the SA stable notes featuring Monsieur Cobra Venom's take on handicapping the Super Bowl.

Trainer Patrick Biancone—“The Cardinals have a better defense, and I like the ‘under.’”

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I listened to the archived ATR interview with Wolfson. I loved his account of how Laz Barrera trained a sprinter, Bold Forbes, "to win the Belmont Stakes in a walk." 'Forbes held a large lead throughout the race, and at the top of the stretch had a six-length lead; he held on to win by a neck.

So, in a manner of speaking, he might have been correct, but I don't think he was playing semantics with "win[ning] in a walk."

Bold Forbes had a lot of natural speed, like his forebear Bold Ruler, but it did not mean he was deficient in other departments; he HAD won the Kentucky Derby on the lead with fast fractions. (And Bold Ruler beat Round Table and Gallant Man over 10f carrying 130 lbs in the fall.) He was the only horse in that Belmont field who as a SW at the time and only one other of the field members ever did win a stakes. Forbsie won the Belmont on grit and class and the effort cooked him; he never regained his earlier form after that race.