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Old 01-07-2009, 11:31 PM
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I dont think that Curry is that good. feel free to flame me....
I can't flame you if you don't back up your argument with anything.
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Old 01-08-2009, 07:37 AM
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I can't flame you if you don't back up your argument with anything.
I think he is a one dimensional guy who is a fine college player but wont be much of a factor at the next level. Intangibles and all those other things people talk about rarely translate in the NBA.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:10 AM
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I think he is a one dimensional guy who is a fine college player but wont be much of a factor at the next level. Intangibles and all those other things people talk about rarely translate in the NBA.
I think he's far from one dimensional but I agree his game won't translate great to the NBA. He's a very good college point guard and a great college shooting guard but not good enough at the point to be a top NBA point guard and not big enough to be a top NBA shooting guard. I think he could be a very valuable 6th man on a championship team where he can back up at both the 1 and 2 but any team he starts for and is expected to star for is doomed to mediocrity.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:26 AM
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I think he is a one dimensional guy who is a fine college player but wont be much of a factor at the next level. Intangibles and all those other things people talk about rarely translate in the NBA.
I don't really know or care how successful of a pro he'll be, but if you're suggesting that he's a mocha J.J. Redick, you're wrong.

Unlike one-dimensional shooters, Steph has great handle and quickness, so he can create for himself off the dribble. He also makes up for his lack of height by having one of the quickest releases I've ever seen. He's a terrific passer and considering how often he sees double- and triple-teams, he's ridiculously efficient and doesn't turn the ball over a lot. The guy from the past few years that I'd compare him to is Rodney Stuckey, another tweener from an inferior conference. Steph's numbers are easily better than Stuckey's were at EWU across the board, and Stuckey's turned into a solid pro. Not to mention the kid is stupid clutch and has a short memory when it comes to missed shots.

I'm not going to say for sure that he'll be an NBA star, but his ability to get his shot off will give him the chance to prove himself.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:34 PM
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I don't really know or care how successful of a pro he'll be, but if you're suggesting that he's a mocha J.J. Redick, you're wrong.

Unlike one-dimensional shooters, Steph has great handle and quickness, so he can create for himself off the dribble. He also makes up for his lack of height by having one of the quickest releases I've ever seen. He's a terrific passer and considering how often he sees double- and triple-teams, he's ridiculously efficient and doesn't turn the ball over a lot. The guy from the past few years that I'd compare him to is Rodney Stuckey, another tweener from an inferior conference. Steph's numbers are easily better than Stuckey's were at EWU across the board, and Stuckey's turned into a solid pro. Not to mention the kid is stupid clutch and has a short memory when it comes to missed shots.

I'm not going to say for sure that he'll be an NBA star, but his ability to get his shot off will give him the chance to prove himself.
No way he can create his own shot in a meaningful NBA game. He isnt quick enough or strong enough. He may fit in as a spot up shooter and backup backcourt player but is very weak defensively which is a major flaw for an NBA backup. Passing out of double teams is not a skill he will need to utilize in the NBA. Rodney Stuckey is a true one, Curry isn't. He not only wont be an NBA star, I dont see him even having a chance to be a starter. As for the numbers in college and how they translate I give you Adam Morrison.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:57 PM
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No way he can create his own shot in a meaningful NBA game. He isnt quick enough or strong enough. He may fit in as a spot up shooter and backup backcourt player but is very weak defensively which is a major flaw for an NBA backup. Passing out of double teams is not a skill he will need to utilize in the NBA. Rodney Stuckey is a true one, Curry isn't. He not only wont be an NBA star, I dont see him even having a chance to be a starter. As for the numbers in college and how they translate I give you Adam Morrison.
He's definitely not a weak defender, and he's quick enough to get off his own shot in the league, if not as often. I guess you haven't watched him very much. Stuckey didn't play like a true one in college either, by the way. Steph may not fit a certain mold, but neither did Allen Iverson or Charles Barkley. Not saying Steph's going to be as good as either, but I wouldn't dismiss him just because he doesn't fit a certain body type.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:11 PM
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He's definitely not a weak defender, and he's quick enough to get off his own shot in the league, if not as often. I guess you haven't watched him very much. Stuckey didn't play like a true one in college either, by the way. Steph may not fit a certain mold, but neither did Allen Iverson or Charles Barkley. Not saying Steph's going to be as good as either, but I wouldn't dismiss him just because he doesn't fit a certain body type.
Joey he is a bulk shooter who doesnt have NBA strength. When solid NBA guys decide to lock him down he is toast. Hell he had a big problem with Purdue. He may wind up a niche shooter in a Steve Kerr mold who can play off of others and not turn the ball over. Comparing him to Iverson who had superior quickness or barkley who had superior strength and spring is strange. He is a nice college player on a second division program that gets to shoot alot. Who exactly is he guarding at the NBA level? He really is like a version of Larry Hughes except not as big, strong or athletic.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:35 PM
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Joey he is a bulk shooter who doesnt have NBA strength. When solid NBA guys decide to lock him down he is toast. Hell he had a big problem with Purdue. He may wind up a niche shooter in a Steve Kerr mold who can play off of others and not turn the ball over. Comparing him to Iverson who had superior quickness or barkley who had superior strength and spring is strange. He is a nice college player on a second division program that gets to shoot alot. Who exactly is he guarding at the NBA level? He really is like a version of Larry Hughes except not as big, strong or athletic.
Stick to baseball. He's nothing like Larry Hughes and he shoots as many twos as threes. He's not playing against junior high kids, so he knows how to get his shot off against taller players one way or another. Just like I assumed, you completely missed my point with the Iverson/Barkley analogy.

He's like Eddie House with better handle, passing and defense. He does need to get stronger, but Steph's biggest problem in the league will be mental, not physical. Generally it's hard for guys who are relied on for all of their team's offense to adjust into playing a distinct role at the next level, and he's such a bizarre player, it'll be tough for a coach to figure out what that role is.

Again, I don't think he'll be a superstar in the NBA, but he won't be the scrub you think he'll be either.
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Curry will play in the NBA and he will be successful. He's not playing against Ivy League teams every night. He led his team very far in the tournament last year. Watch how he beat Georgetown. He put 29 on Duke. He put 40 something on Oklahoma. These are major college teams and he still scores in bunches. There is always a place in the league for a guy with his shooting ability. If Craig Hodges, Steve Kerr, Tim Legler, hell, even his dad Dale made it in the league, Steph will be there too. He's got much more game than all of them. He can handle the ball and he's a pretty good passer too. He's not one-dimensional at all. I get so tired of the so called "experts" always saying this guy or that guy can't play in the pros. Stop trying to pigeonhole guys and just let them play. Those same experts said Ryan Leaf, Akeli Smith, Alex Smith and a host of others would be great pros then say a guy like Tim Tebow can't be. Tebow is a WINNER. Give me him over all of those other guys because he knows how to get the job done and he's proven it over and over at the highest level of the college game. They said Darren Sproles couldn't play. Ask the Colts if that's true. They said Earl Boykins and Tyrone Bogues couldn't make it. I think they did ok. Talent and heart can take you further than your combine numbers.
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