Dick Jauron/Turk Schonert/Jets/Dolphins playalong thread

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

He is the epitome of a system QB that is successful because of what he has around him. True...he has to make the throws. But reads? Most of the time, he is given two reads max and goes through maybe one progression. Anything beyond that and he gets confused and then is sacked. But how hard is it throwing a three yard inside slant to welker? How hard is it throwing to Randy Moss?

How many times have we seen these types? AJ Feely come to mind? How about Steve Bono? Todd Bauman?

Perhaps im being too tough on him. We will see. He did his job this year and certainly his success was beyond anyone's expectations.

As for Hill, I dont think he is that good. Thats my point. Look at what he did with that line and that receiving corps. Inject Cassell into the niners this year and you think he could have done any better?

You cant compare him to those othr guys simply because he has never played a meaningful minute before this year. Let me say once more, there is no harder scenario that I can think of than a guy that has NO experience unexpectedly coming in to replace one of the all time greats on a high profile team and playing well. I can not think of a similar possible scenario in sports. Obviously breaking in with NE has some advantages but no one calls out Joe Montana and Steve Young for being system QB's with great receivers. The only numbers we have on the guy are pretty damn good and logically he will improve as he plays. No one said he was the savior but in football how many guys can really make that claim?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You cant compare him to those othr guys simply because he has never played a meaningful minute before this year. Let me say once more, there is no harder scenario that I can think of than a guy that has NO experience unexpectedly coming in to replace one of the all time greats on a high profile team and playing well. I can not think of a similar possible scenario in sports. Obviously breaking in with NE has some advantages but no one calls out Joe Montana and Steve Young for being system QB's with great receivers. The only numbers we have on the guy are pretty damn good and logically he will improve as he plays. No one said he was the savior but in football how many guys can really make that claim?

In Montana's defense, he won two superbowls without Jerry Rice or John Taylor but i get your point.

Feely had no experience in Philly, had a great streak and cashed in and flubbed. Same with Bauman in Minnesota.

He may very well have a solid career. I agree that he is not a savior.

My point is that teams dont pay 12 million dollars and a first round draft pick for a guy to manage games. For that bounty, they want a QB that makes plays. They want a guy they can build an offense around.