Horse of the Year?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by dylbert

One could argue that she is California HOTY, or synthetic HOTY.

too funny

and let me guess, your in the Easy Goer was better then Sunday Silence crowd as well.

[10 pnt move up]

Does anyone think who Curlin's trainer is might swing a few votes, the guy has been popped for more drug offenses then Laurence Taylor. How much of the good stuff did Curlin get this year? To my knowledge Zenyatta's trainer has not a whiff of a problem like that with the jurisdictions.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Does anyone think who Curlin's trainer is might swing a few votes, the guy has been popped for more drug offenses then Laurence Taylor. How much of the good stuff did Curlin get this year? To my knowledge Zenyatta's trainer has not a whiff of a problem like that with the jurisdictions.

It doesn't seem like he got much...considering he lost a couple of times and the times he won were against suspect horses.

[Stickhorse]

Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.

Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

i think it should go to a us based horse.the filly in europe is fantastic but we did not see her here on us soil.. so for me its curlin..hate the owner and trainer but the horse doesent know them ..he just runs hard... big brown is second choice if i voted

[The Indomitable DrugS]

If I had a vote I would cast it for MissingLisaLewis.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Stickhorse

Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.

Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta

I agree whole heartedly and because of Zenyatta's Arc she wins Curlin lost his chance at Santa Anita. IMO

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

because of Zenyatta's Arc she wins Curlin lost his chance at Santa Anita. IMO

huh?

[The Bid]

They will confuse you on here. We need to read between the lines. Hes obviously saying Big Brown should be horse of the year

[parsixfarms]

Connections notwithstanding, IMO, Curlin should win the HOY award based on the races in which he competed, and won (save for two on non-dirt surfaces).

That being said, I don't understand those who question the caliber of the competition that Zenyatta, an outstanding filly, beat. The number of legitimate Grade I fillies (Ginger Punch, Hystericalady, Music Note, Cocoa Beach) defeated by Zenyatta - in more races - during her campaign far outweighs the number of legitimate Grade I dirt horses who Curlin defeated (perhaps none) during his.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Stickhorse

Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.
Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta

This statement is absolutely, 100% incorrect. You can throw the Dubai World Cup into the mix because it's a race on the record of a horse that is eligible for the title. Zarkava never raced in North America so therefore she is ineligible and thus, her results aren't even to be considered.

[ateamstupid]

I'd give the slight nod to Curlin, but wouldn't be outraged if Zenyatta won.

[smuthg]

good article on DRF by Steve Davidowitz. http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do?NID=100680


I think Commentator's best two races were better than any other horse/race this year but his Clark flop destroys any case that could be made for him and Curlin looked like Michael Jordan in his Wizard's uniform this year, something just wasn't right... So if I had a vote I would go with Zenyatta.

I found it very interesting that Davidowitz went with Eight Belles in the 3YO filly divisions without much discussion. Does Goldikova get a look in this division?

[miraja2]

Nicanor or Hang Glide.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by smuthg

good article on DRF by Steve Davidowitz. http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do?NID=100680


I think Commentator's best two races were better than any other horse/race this year but his Clark flop destroys any case that could be made for him and Curlin looked like Michael Jordan in his Wizard's uniform this year, something just wasn't right... So if I had a vote I would go with Zenyatta.

I found it very interesting that Davidowitz went with Eight Belles in the 3YO filly divisions without much discussion. Does Goldikova get a look in this division?

I have no idea how Eight Belles would get his vote but even less understanding of how Commentator gets his vote for sprinter since he didnt win a sprint stakes this year. And while Assmussen getting the eclipse isnt exactly a feel good story I cant come up with Hollendorfer in that catagory either

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Stickhorse

Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.

Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta

you have to have one start in north america to be considered for an eclipse, zarkava obviously doesn't qualify. curlin does, and i can see taking his dwc into consideration, since high chaparral (for example) only had ONE start in NA when he won, so obviously foreign races are considered.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Curlin....I guess, but for me personally it's the one who made me the most $$$ in 2008.....

Kickin N Screamin

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Curlin....I guess, but for me personally it's the one who made me the most $$$ in 2008.....

Kickin N Screamin

I say give Steve a special Eclipse for scoring us those calendars.