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[SCUDSBROTHER]

I didn't give money to , or vote for, a guy who would cuddle up with a bigot who compared the "redefiniton of a marriage" to include gay marriage to legitimizing incest, child abuse, and polygamy. " Did OBA not know he said this? It's like Kennedy having a segregationist involved at his inaugural. He leaned over too far. He could of just got a guy who was against gay marriage, and against Abortion. He was smart to let the gays down 1st though. They have nowhere else to go. This the cheapest way. He doesn't lose anything this way. For every gay that's upset, there is a moderate that's thrilled the kiddies are playing together in harmony. It's a kick in the face to most people who gave him money though. Ain't the 1st time people been ripped off. You can't have change if ya gunna pander to that fat bigot. OBA said "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." Well, hey that Warren guy is the best example out there. This wouldn't even have happened if we had real separation of church and state. This "invocation" shouldn't even be a part of the inaugural. One wrong allowed the other.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I didn't give money to , or vote for, a guy who would cuddle up with a bigot who compared the "redefiniton of a marriage" to include gay marriage to legitimizing incest, child abuse, and polygamy. " Did OBA not know he said this? It's like Kennedy having a segregationist involved at his inaugural. He leaned over too far. He could of just got a guy who was against gay marriage, and against Abortion. He was smart to let the gays down 1st though. They have nowhere else to go. This the cheapest way. He doesn't lose anything this way. For every gay that's upset, there is a moderate that's thrilled the kiddies are playing together in harmony. It's a kick in the face to most people who gave him money though. Ain't the 1st time people been ripped off. You can't have change if ya gunna pander to that fat bigot. OBA said "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." Well, hey that Warren guy is the best example out there.

i think we'd all be better off if people just ignored everyone deluded enough to believe in ghosts, ufo's, 9/11 conspiracy theories, and god's.

i don't regularly advertise any of that where i work because i might need cooperation from people who have different views.

we just spent 8 years with a president who thought there was no point listening to opposing viewpoints. you really think the rest of us want another 8?

you may have voted for him because you thought he was an ideologue. i voted for him because i thought he wasn't.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i think we'd all be better off if people just ignored everyone deluded enough to believe in ghosts, ufo's, 9/11 conspiracy theories, and god's.

i don't regularly advertise any of that where i work because i might need cooperation from people who have different views.

we just spent 8 years with a president who thought there was no point listening to opposing viewpoints. you really think the rest of us want another 8?

you may have voted for him because you thought he was an ideologue. i voted for him because i thought he wasn't.

I didn't vote for him to listen to bigots like that guy. Maybe you did.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I didn't vote for him to listen to bigots like that guy. Maybe you did.

i'll take him over "associates with terrorists" guy.

if you think this admin will be any more successful than the last by ignoring everyone with opposing views, you missed the most important lesson of the last 8 years.

rick warren is a symbolic gesture to evangelical's. i think this tells those willing to listen the door is open.

meanwhile, he appointed the lesbian deputy mayor of l.a. to a staff post.

i look at both moves and think, "there's hope". we don't have to all move into our respective corner's ready to come out swinging. maybe we can have a conversation in the middle.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i'll take him over "associates with terrorists" guy.

if you think this admin will be any more successful than the last by ignoring everyone with opposing views, you missed the most important lesson of the last 8 years.

rick warren is a symbolic gesture to evangelical's. i think this tells those willing to listen the door is open.

meanwhile, he appointed the lesbian deputy mayor of l.a. to a staff post.

i look at both moves and think, "there's hope". we don't have to all move into our respective corner's ready to come out swinging. maybe we can have a conversation in the middle.

He's a bigot. He put gay marriage on the same level as a guy marrying his sister. The interviewer gave him a chance to put it another way, and he didn't take that option. He asked him if it's on the same level, and he said yes. So, no, I don't understand how listening to that guy is "hope" or "change." It's pandering to bigots. I understand why he chose this way to do it(it's a weak group that is routinely thrown under the truck,) but I think it is not what his supporters thought he was about. This is his 1st mistake. I don't think he is aware of all the stuff the guy has said in interviews. There were surely other choices who hadn't said that their lifestyle is on the level of a brother and sister being married, or an old man being married to a kid.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

That's not a conversation in the middle. There is no way that Warren guy can get to the middle. McCain could get to the middle. Not this guy. Like I said, OBA is going too far over there (deep into the bigot section.)

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

That's not a conversation in the middle. There is no way that Warren guy can get to the middle. McCain could get to the middle. Not this guy. Like I said, OBA is going too far over there (deep into the bigot section.)

i'll take your word on who can get to the middle from the right, arljim's word on who can get to the middle from the left, and anti's word on maintaing a heterosexual relationship.