11/28 (HOL) Citation (Gr. I); Miesque (Gr. III)

[CSC]

He can win though I wouldn't "unload" my wallet considering Hyperbaric is a serious contender in here and he'll be twice the value.

[Chalky]

Thanks to all. I guess will play him as a single in the P3 and P4, and then box him in the exacta with those horses you mentioned. Good luck, and thanks for the insight.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I agree 100%. There is very little speed in the race and Hyperbaric might actually find himself on the lead. I know it looks like Formal Decree has a bit of speed, but he crawled from the rail last time, with the quick run into the turn. But today, breaking wide, with Samyn leads me to believe he'll be coming from off the lead. Whatsthescript can absolutely win, but I can't be him to win.

I thought Lord Admiral was a bit interesting at a price.

Many will look at Whatsthescript's 3rd to Goldikova in the BC Mile and think wow that was quite the performance, however that was a well beaten 3rd and though Goldikova is a special horse, Kip Deville was a clear 2nd in that race. Again I respect Whatsthescript but to me it was a bit of suck up for 3rd in the Mile, he sure can win today, but I'm not sure he is the best bet per say of all of the races today.

[CSC]

And again you don't need Hank Goldberg to tell you Whatsthescript can win today.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by CSC

Many will look at Whatsthescript's 3rd to Goldikova in the BC Mile and think wow that was quite the performance, however that was a well beaten 3rd and though Goldikova is a special horse, Kip Deville was a clear 2nd in that race. Again I respect Whatsthescript but to me it was a bit of suck up for 3rd in the Mile, he sure can win today, but I'm not sure he is the best bet per say of all of the races today.

I've always liked W-T-SCRPT, but I didn't care for that last race. Maybe GOMEZ was too confident, and gave him too much to do (to come from last off a pace that looked like the front horses were being very cordial with each other.) I didn't care for that track though. They obviously slowed it down so even a parasite like 'Code could get up in the sprint. He may not have cared for it. He likes this track. Has a cheater trainer, and the best money jock. He probably looks like himself today. He has more speed than what he showed the other day(again a sign he didn't like the track that day). Kip didn't look himself either (that day.) If he is mid-pack full of run, then he's himself again. Hate to take low odds against 4 horses who haven't run on the course before. Also, Ferneley could be a horse for the course. I could do without the race. I hate a race like this. So little reward. We hem n' haw about a horse who will pay nothing.

[Mike]

I'll box Internally Flawless with Eloquently in the 6th; tri key Whatsthescript over Galantas and Formal Decree in the 8th

[Chalky]

I do like Emmy Darling today and think you just may see 3/1 or better in that field.

[Chalky]

I do like Emmy Darling today and think you just may see 3/1 or better in that field.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Mike

I'll box Internally Flawless with Eloquently in the 6th; tri key Whatsthescript over Galantas and Formal Decree in the 8th

With the scratch of Galantas, I'll adjust with a tri key of Formal Decree on top of Whatsthescript and Medici Code

[GPK]

I think Pretty Katherine is gonna run better today than people think. I think she has a big chance at boxcar odds.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by GPK

I think Pretty Katherine is gonna run better today than people think. I think she has a big chance at boxcar odds.

Brief thrill anyways.


Nice ride by Cochise on the winner

[CSC]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I've always liked W-T-SCRPT, but I didn't care for that last race. Maybe GOMEZ was too confident, and gave him too much to do (to come from last off a pace that looked like the front horses were being very cordial with each other.) I didn't care for that track though. They obviously slowed it down so even a parasite like 'Code could get up in the sprint. He may not have cared for it. He likes this track. Has a cheater trainer, and the best money jock. He probably looks like himself today. He has more speed than what he showed the other day(again a sign he didn't like the track that day). Kip didn't look himself either (that day.) If he is mid-pack full of run, then he's himself again. Hate to take low odds against 4 horses who haven't run on the course before. Also, Ferneley could be a horse for the course. I could do without the race. I hate a race like this. So little reward. We hem n' haw about a horse who will pay nothing.

Ferneley and Hoss's longshot I looked at after he mentioned it, I'm not sure of either judging by their last races I used both past p's and video to see incase I missed anything, the favorites would have to throw a clunker in my opinion if they were to win. Formal Decree you have to give a chance to off his last 2. I tried getting creative but I couldn't make a case for anyone else in here.

1-10-9 here.

I should mention Rebellion also, but isn't he a poly horse and not a turf horse? 2nd in the BC d mile however 6-7 maybe his better trip?

[Travis Stone]

That was some tremendous race riding by Baze. They had to step on it just a touch to shake clear of Samyn and then relaxed well, looked to be in some trouble on the far turn, but had plenty left.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

That was some tremendous race riding by Baze. They had to step on it just a touch to shake clear of Samyn and then relaxed well, looked to be in some trouble on the far turn, but had plenty left.

He looked in trouble? Tyler never moved on the horse until he cut him loose.

I think this race is a great example of people not looking into race dynamics (meaning making Whatsthescript 6/5). I can't argue that he was usable, but he certainly wasn't 50% to win the race...

[Travis Stone]

I thought it looked like the others were starting to swarm-in but it was a quick second thought as moments later he was gone.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Scav

He looked in trouble? Tyler never moved on the horse until he cut him loose.

I think this race is a great example of people not looking into race dynamics (meaning making Whatsthescript 6/5). I can't argue that he was usable, but he certainly wasn't 50% to win the race...

Handicappers look into race dynamics. In fact, LONE SPEED is the prime play of just about EVERY idiot out there.

The problem, however, is that (cheap) speed seems to win quite a bit more often on the CALI turf than just about any other turf course out there. This might be attributed to the hard course. Granted, that's a factor. But, my theory is that the CALI jocks just never ****in learn: either in contesting loose leaders or DRAFTING OFF THEM. You can go to a lesser track, like CRC, for example, and good luck getting out there on your own and wiring. While those jocks are no where near as good overall as the ones riding at S.CAL, they at least don't want to get bent over by an easy lead wire job.

And, the trainers just don't get it either out there. They keep horses in the barn and drill them ridiculously fast, while they could be put to better use keeping paces honest (since the jocks can't seem to be able to do it on their own).

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Hope you got some of that exacta. It was a nice one.

Nice call Hoss!

[alysheba4]

gomez was f%cking horrendous yesterday....

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by CSC

Many will look at Whatsthescript's 3rd to Goldikova in the BC Mile and think wow that was quite the performance, however that was a well beaten 3rd and though Goldikova is a special horse, Kip Deville was a clear 2nd in that race. Again I respect Whatsthescript but to me it was a bit of suck up for 3rd in the Mile, he sure can win today, but I'm not sure he is the best bet per say of all of the races today.

11.63 penultimate 1/8th
10.95 last 1/8th

while Goldikova ran 12.03 and 11.03 for the same splits.

of course, she ran a lot more earlier (though she was pulled around the track, as she was drafting) so, yeah

this was a SUCK UP effort.

Not saying he has to win but let's, at least, interpret his last race correctly.

P.S. he also didn't change leads in the lane.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

11.63 penultimate 1/8th
10.95 last 1/8th

while Goldikova ran 12.03 and 11.03 for the same splits.

of course, she ran a lot more earlier (though she was pulled around the track, as she was drafting) so, yeah

this was a SUCK UP effort.

Not saying he has to win but let's, at least, interpret his last race correctly.

P.S. he also didn't change leads in the lane.

I'll be happy to elaborate on that tommorow, I just got in and I am just too tired right now, goodnight.