Hey Oracle Say it aint so: Johnny V winless for 5 days!!!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Rupert- I appreciate your honesty and your willingness to tell it like it is. You have earned respect for a reason and you ARE a stand up guy unlike the oral fellow.

Terrorist sympathizer? LOL. Surely you arent that closeminded. Are all Arabs terrorists? The act of "terrorism" IS disgraceful but those acts are committed not just by men in hoods but also by governments including Ours. I hate all forms of war. Call me a peace sympathizer.

No, I don't think that all Arabs are terrorists. I don't think that all Muslims are terrorists. The terrorists are these militant Islamic extremists. These are the only ones I have a problem with. I don't know how you can compare our government to these groups. There is no defense for the behavior or the motives of these groups. They have no positive motives. They just like to kill innocent people out of hate. Look what they're doing in Iraq every day. They bomb super-markets and cafes. They want to blow-up commercial airliners. What would that accomplish aside from killing a bunch of innocent people. There is no way to compare the behavior of these groups to the bevavior of our government. You have to be kidding.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

No, I don't think that all Arabs are terrorists. I don't think that all Muslims are terrorists. The terrorists are these militant Islamic extremists. These are the only ones I have a problem with. I don't know how you can compare our government to these groups. There is no defense for the behavior or the motives of these groups. They have no positive motives. They just like to kill innocent people out of hate. Look what they're doing in Iraq every day. They bomb super-markets and cafes. They want to blow-up commercial airliners. What would that accomplish aside from killing a bunch of innocent people. There is no way to compare the behavior of these groups to the bevavior of our government. You have to be kidding.

Please, guys, maybe it's better to leave the political debate for another forum.

--Dunbar

[Scav]

Why doesn't everyone just chill out, there is an ignore feature on this board, if you don't like what someone has to say, block them

[Danzig]

not exactly sure why people want to come back and demand an apology or retraction when someone, or mostly a certain someone, is wrong. what's the point? if we all had to face 'you were wrong, admit it' threads, would anyone ever go out on a limb on anything? make a pick?

what, we have message board police now?? i don't recall anywhere in the rules on here that said you must come and take your lumps when you're wrong. it's irritating, at least to me. it's all up here in black and white. everyone can see, and go back and re-read, what was said. funny what interests some on here.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

not exactly sure why people want to come back and demand an apology or retraction when someone, or mostly a certain someone, is wrong. what's the point? if we all had to face 'you were wrong, admit it' threads, would anyone ever go out on a limb on anything? make a pick?

what, we have message board police now?? i don't recall anywhere in the rules on here that said you must come and take your lumps when you're wrong. it's irritating, at least to me. it's all up here in black and white. everyone can see, and go back and re-read, what was said. funny what interests some on here.

Oracle deserves it in this case because he is always one to say "I told you so."

[Danzig]

so he says that...so what

i'd rather see the others put up their own thoughts, if they're correct, wonderful. seems to me their i told you sos are just as irritating.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

so he says that...so what

i'd rather see the others put up their own thoughts, if they're correct, wonderful. seems to me their i told you sos are just as irritating.

Where i come from, if you talk it then be prepared to eat it. I'll put up my selections as i did the other day at the spa in the selections section. And if im wrong and someone calls me out then I will tip my hat and say "good day". Its called being a man. This oracle is a little child.

And if you dont like it, dont respond. But please dont whine.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

not exactly sure why people want to come back and demand an apology or retraction when someone, or mostly a certain someone, is wrong. what's the point? if we all had to face 'you were wrong, admit it' threads, would anyone ever go out on a limb on anything? make a pick?

Really? I've heard Rupert say he was wrong many times, usually about a horse he liked or didn't like, but sometimes about other aspects of racing. It's one of the reasons I respect him so much. Do you really find it so humiliating to admit you were wrong about something you said. Apparently oracle does.

Oracle in the past week has said that Bute can be administered on race day in California. He has yet to correct that error, despite saying he would talk to a trainer who would know.

Oracle posted that he would admit he was wrong about Songster if the sheets came back showing Songster's last race was on a par with other races. Still waiting for that promise to be fulfilled.

And now the one referred to in this thread, where oracle assured us that JV would never go 0-5. Instead of ackowledging he was wrong, he makes a ridiculous comment about "miniscule" number of races. (most riders would kill to have 25 mounts at Saratoga in 5 days, with as many live ones as JV had).

I'm not here to bug oracle. I'm here to talk horses, share info, learn something. But there's a pattern here of oracle dishing it out but not taking any responsibility for his own errors or promises. And yes, it bothers me, but not enough to keep me up at night.

--Dunbar

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

No, I don't think that all Arabs are terrorists. I don't think that all Muslims are terrorists. The terrorists are these militant Islamic extremists. These are the only ones I have a problem with. I don't know how you can compare our government to these groups. There is no defense for the behavior or the motives of these groups. They have no positive motives. They just like to kill innocent people out of hate. Look what they're doing in Iraq every day. They bomb super-markets and cafes. They want to blow-up commercial airliners. What would that accomplish aside from killing a bunch of innocent people. There is no way to compare the behavior of these groups to the bevavior of our government. You have to be kidding.

Not the thread or section for this discussion but if you would like to do it in the political section i would be happy to engage. I always appreciate a well thought out debate and our debates so far have been pretty fun (especially the kent d one).

This thread is about ORACLE and how he was WRONG. Lets see if he is EVER going to be stand up. I wont hold my breath.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Not the thread or section for this discussion but if you would like to do it in the political section i would be happy to engage. I always appreciate a well thought out debate and our debates so far have been pretty fun (especially the kent d one).

This thread is about ORACLE and how he was WRONG. Lets see if he is EVER going to be stand up. I wont hold my breath.

By the way, Gomez already has two wins today. He had 3 yesterday. If he keeps this up, he may catch Prado in the Saratoga standings.