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Old 11-07-2008, 01:05 PM
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people reporting they made over $200,000/year were 6% of the sample polled. 52% of those in that category reported voting for obama.
What was also interesting is 70 percent of the people polled who voted for Obama said they thought he would raise their taxes- and yet they voted for him anyway. Makes me think two things-

A) The Republicans are going to need to find a new sales pitch besides "cut taxes."
B) Lots of Americans are wildly optimistic about how much money they are going to make in 2009.
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:13 PM
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What was also interesting is 70 percent of the people polled who voted for Obama said they thought he would raise their taxes- and yet they voted for him anyway. Makes me think two things-

A) The Republicans are going to need to find a new sales pitch besides "cut taxes."
B) Lots of Americans are wildly optimistic about how much money they are going to make in 2009.

Uh...yeah..interesting! I can't see raising taxes, they'd find a way to blow that money too.

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Old 11-07-2008, 02:12 PM
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:14 PM
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:56 PM
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Obama's % of white vote was most by Democrat since Carter (tied Clinton's % in reelection)...that is the one figure that really gives me hope. I think the Republicans need to start distancing themselves from the religious right, as several Rep spokespersons have observed, they are becoming the party of the white southern male...they are even in trouble in the midwest. In 2050 when minority groups outnumber whites, they will be in danger of becoming irrelevant. It will be an interesting next 8 years!
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Obama's % of white vote was most by Democrat since Carter (tied Clinton's % in reelection)...that is the one figure that really gives me hope. I think the Republicans need to start distancing themselves from the religious right, as several Rep spokespersons have observed, they are becoming the party of the white southern male...they are even in trouble in the midwest. In 2050 when minority groups outnumber whites, they will be in danger of becoming irrelevant. It will be an interesting next 8 years!
The Republicans will get a boost though once the 2010 Census comes out and the electoral college is adjusted. Based on expectations:

States gaining an electoral vote:

Texas ( possibly 4)
Florida (possibly 2)
Arizona (possibly 2)
Georgia
California
Nevada
Utah

States losing an electoral vote:

New York (possibly 2)
Ohio (possibly 2)
Illinois
Iowa
Louisiana
Massachusetts
Michigan
Missouri
Pennsylvania
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:19 PM
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Obama's % of white vote was most by Democrat since Carter (tied Clinton's % in reelection)...that is the one figure that really gives me hope. I think the Republicans need to start distancing themselves from the religious right, as several Rep spokespersons have observed, they are becoming the party of the white southern male...they are even in trouble in the midwest. In 2050 when minority groups outnumber whites, they will be in danger of becoming irrelevant. It will be an interesting next 8 years!
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Obama's % of white vote was most by Democrat since Carter (tied Clinton's % in reelection)...that is the one figure that really gives me hope. I think the Republicans need to start distancing themselves from the religious right, as several Rep spokespersons have observed, they are becoming the party of the white southern male...they are even in trouble in the midwest. In 2050 when minority groups outnumber whites, they will be in danger of becoming irrelevant. It will be an interesting next 8 years!
I think it may be more of a rural v. urban thing.
Obama won in San Antonio (Bexar County), Dallas, and Houston.
In Austin (Travis County)67% to 32%...

The state went to McCain of course.
And the Houston and Dallas votes did not count the burbs outside the city proper. The San Antonio vote was actually the county vote 54 to 45 Obama.
Carried a lot more of the Hispanic vote than I dreamed possible. Austin does not surprise me. Younger prosperous city. If you look at the California vote by county, McCain won by square footage in California. So the rural vote was McCain.
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Obama's % of white vote was most by Democrat since Carter (tied Clinton's % in reelection)...that is the one figure that really gives me hope. I think the Republicans need to start distancing themselves from the religious right, as several Rep spokespersons have observed, they are becoming the party of the white southern male...they are even in trouble in the midwest. In 2050 when minority groups outnumber whites, they will be in danger of becoming irrelevant. It will be an interesting next 8 years!
I believe the reason the republicans lost in 2006 is they didn't cut spending or reduce the size of government. I don't see how abandoning the rest of their constituents will help the party.

I believe people of color are more religious and more conservative than their zombie like voting suggests. But I don't live in a big city.
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