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Old 11-03-2008, 11:16 AM
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There are a lot of smart/great people who thoroughly (sp?) believe the Bible & everything in it. Its a hard subject to debate with someone when faith and belief are involved.

Personally, I just can not.. no matter how I think about it or try to have faith, can not believe that Adam and Eve started this whole thing or that Noah's Ark happened.. or... countless stories that I could pull out of the Bible.

I respect people who have faith and believe in the bible... I mean it has to take a lot of faith to believe some of those things.

But to IGNORE SCIENCE (which is supposed to be a major school topic) and teach this creation theory in schools is just
it shouldn't be.

someone's deep belief in a fairy tale doesn't end the discussion. rational people need to stop walking away from the topic. many christians have no problem understanding that a parable can carry morale truth without being factual. you can believe in god and still know the books of the new testament were written decades to centuries after the historical jesus died and chosen for inclusion by people with a political agenda for a strong centralized church.

the books of the old testament are no different. anyone who believes god stopped the midday sun in the sky (written at a time when people thought earth was the center of the universe) don't understand celestial mechanics.

treat creationists with the same respect you would someone who insists they've been kidnapped by aliens and want to teach your kids about that at school.
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:20 AM
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Grade jub,Hi.


Fine work...really.
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:25 AM
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Proof there is no god...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFmK9tD-Ckg
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:41 AM
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it shouldn't be.

someone's deep belief in a fairy tale doesn't end the discussion. rational people need to stop walking away from the topic. many christians have no problem understanding that a parable can carry morale truth without being factual. you can believe in god and still know the books of the new testament were written decades to centuries after the historical jesus died and chosen for inclusion by people with a political agenda for a strong centralized church.

the books of the old testament are no different. anyone who believes god stopped the midday sun in the sky (written at a time when people thought earth was the center of the universe) don't understand celestial mechanics.

treat creationists with the same respect you would someone who insists they've been kidnapped by aliens and want to teach your kids about that at school.
I 100% agree with this, and I def do debate with my Christian friends (ask Cajun - her and I talk about it all the time). But there are so many of them that think the Bible is Non-Fiction and believe every word in there. I dont get it but no matter what I say, they still have their faith (which is respectable). Shoot a few people I work with believe God is responsible for everything and some how God will make McCain win. I told them - "I'm not sure God is a registered voter" - I also said "How do you know God doesnt want Obama"

Its an honorable thing to have faith IMO... but no way that stuff belongs in classrooms! If you want to learn about it in school - go to a private Catholic or Christian school.
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:48 AM
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I 100% agree with this, and I def do debate with my Christian friends (ask Cajun - her and I talk about it all the time). But there are so many of them that think the Bible is Non-Fiction and believe every word in there. I dont get it but no matter what I say, they still have their faith (which is respectable). Shoot a few people I work with believe God is responsible for everything and some how God will make McCain win. I told them - "I'm not sure God is a registered voter" - I also said "How do you know God doesnt want Obama"

Its an honorable thing to have faith IMO... but no way that stuff belongs in classrooms! If you want to learn about it in school - go to a private Catholic or Christian school.
That was pretty swell as well.

I liked it..although you will never know what I am.





I do believe Adam and Eve is a metaphor for Steve and Thebby.
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:52 AM
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Behooviepied.


I do know what you are though.
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:56 AM
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Behooviepied.


I do know what you are though.


YOU KNOW NOTHING!



















I'm sorry.


You know nothing.





Because I want to know who made the black hole...that's my question to science...and how God had no beginning and will have no end....and that He is everywhere.

The last one I can maybe buy---a little.




They both have bu-choo 'splaining to do.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:11 PM
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I'm sorry.


You know nothing.


Because I want to know who made the black hole...that's my question to science...and how God had no beginning and will have no end....and that He is everywhere.

The last one I can maybe buy---a little.


They both have bu-choo 'splaining to do.
tell me about it!! I have a lot of questions I'd like answered by you SIR


(and I DO know)
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:57 AM
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After reading a few articles on state laws limiting voting rights, and debate on the definition of "mental incompetence", I do agree with rescinding the right to vote for reasons of diminished capacity. But, we don't give out competency exams when people register to vote.

Would a belief that the world is round, or belief in creationism be sufficient to prove diminished capacity? What is the IQ cut-off? How about past drug/alcohol use?
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:54 AM
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Lori, you are on a roll homie!
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:09 PM
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Lori, you are on a roll homie!
Thanks homie.. now that Philly has a World Championship my brain can function normally LOL

In all seriousness, I'm not a big fan of MY *****'S SOOOOO HOT. She did a fine job with her speech at the RNC, but since then everything out of her mouth is like trying to listen to SkidsMother... but the opposite view ya know.

My vote hasnt changed, I still like Johnny boy- but I've conceeded the race to Obama and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and support him while he's leading this place (A job I sure as hell wouldnt want at this time in history).
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I do believe Adam and Eve is a metaphor for Steve and Thebby.
Fine work Maestro!




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Old 11-03-2008, 12:15 PM
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Fine work Maestro!




Thank you.

I hope you and Thebby will enjoy it.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:17 PM
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Bori..like I said.....nothing.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:22 PM
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Bori?

I guess thats better than Whori
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:10 PM
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it shouldn't be.

someone's deep belief in a fairy tale doesn't end the discussion. rational people need to stop walking away from the topic. many christians have no problem understanding that a parable can carry morale truth without being factual. you can believe in god and still know the books of the new testament were written decades to centuries after the historical jesus died and chosen for inclusion by people with a political agenda for a strong centralized church.

the books of the old testament are no different. anyone who believes god stopped the midday sun in the sky (written at a time when people thought earth was the center of the universe) don't understand celestial mechanics.

treat creationists with the same respect you would someone who insists they've been kidnapped by aliens and want to teach your kids about that at school.

i loved this post god. so glad to know i'm not alone. matter of fact, i think a lot of people doubt far more than they let on--it's the better dead than different, follow the pack mentality. not sure how often i've heard ' play it safe, and believe'-so they're generally faking it as well.
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:14 PM
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On the other hand...let's not bag people who have strong faith, either, such as the can do no wrong Dumars has the season.




Maybe what you really believe is what comes to pass.

How would we know?




Could you see yourself standing there pointing out airplanes to a homo erectus and then explaining to him how this radar set makes it all so easy?
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:31 PM
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Could you see yourself standing there pointing out airplanes to a homo erectus and then explaining to him how this radar set makes it all so easy?
Something similar really happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16fvTonR_gA
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:44 PM
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Something similar really happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16fvTonR_gA

Same thing.




To explain airplanes and radar sets you would to explain electrcity,hydraulics,electronics,avionics---differential air pressure being ESSENTIAL----the vulcanization process.....metal fabricating........







...ya foller?
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:46 PM
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Thanks Uncly..innocuous and completely missing the point as per usual.





I'm an agnostic,too.

But I don't think you got what I said.




Forget it.
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