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Old 10-25-2008, 10:58 PM
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don't adapt.. whatever you do.. keep blaming surfaces so the rest of us can make money..

funny thing is if they didn't tell you it wasn't dirt.. you would, most likely, never know the difference.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:04 PM
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don't adapt.. whatever you do.. keep blaming surfaces so the rest of us can make money..

funny thing is if they didn't tell you it wasn't dirt.. you would, most likely, never know the difference.
I think they should install that stuff that is on the inner dirt track at Aqueduct everywhere, because that is by far the fairest racing surface I have ever seen.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:06 PM
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I think they should install that stuff that is on the inner dirt track at Aqueduct everywhere, because that is by far the fairest racing surface I have ever seen.
Did I just read that correctly??
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:08 PM
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Did I just read that correctly??
Yes you did, you don't agree?
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Old 10-26-2008, 07:15 AM
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Yes you did, you don't agree?
Unless there is another Aqueduct Race Track, that is located somewhere other than Jamaica, NY, then no I don't agree.

There are many days at Aqueduct I could don a horse costume and ride that rail to the winners circle.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:57 PM
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Unless there is another Aqueduct Race Track, that is located somewhere other than Jamaica, NY, then no I don't agree.

There are many days at Aqueduct I could don a horse costume and ride that rail to the winners circle.
That may be the best quote in the history of any message board.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:25 PM
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That may be the best quote in the history of any message board.
Now now ... let's not give Kev a big head.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:55 PM
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Unless there is another Aqueduct Race Track, that is located somewhere other than Jamaica, NY, then no I don't agree.

There are many days at Aqueduct I could don a horse costume and ride that rail to the winners circle.

Kev - are you in the back or front?
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:46 PM
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Kev - are you in the back or front?
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:19 PM
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I think they should install that stuff that is on the inner dirt track at Aqueduct everywhere, because that is by far the fairest racing surface I have ever seen.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:20 PM
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back from the dead??? eh?
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:25 PM
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very tough day!
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:26 PM
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very tough day!
at least you didn't have to drive 14 miles home!

....but it was a GOOD day!
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Old 10-26-2008, 07:44 AM
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don't adapt.. whatever you do.. keep blaming surfaces so the rest of us can make money..

funny thing is if they didn't tell you it wasn't dirt.. you would, most likely, never know the difference.

You're kidding....right?

It's turf. It has nothing to do with whether or not you make money betting on it. It is NOT a dirt surface and zero DIRT championships were actually decided this weekend at Santa Anita.

The discussion has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one can make money betting on it.
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Old 10-26-2008, 08:57 AM
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You're kidding....right?

It's turf. It has nothing to do with whether or not you make money betting on it. It is NOT a dirt surface and zero DIRT championships were actually decided this weekend at Santa Anita.

The discussion has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one can make money betting on it.

what he said.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:45 AM
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You're kidding....right?

It's turf. It has nothing to do with whether or not you make money betting on it. It is NOT a dirt surface and zero DIRT championships were actually decided this weekend at Santa Anita.

The discussion has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one can make money betting on it.
He called Santa Anita a s h i t h o l e and since his broke a s s cant afford a plane ticket to ever see the facility he should keep his focus on the surface and not Santa Anita in general as stated.

Everybody knew what they were going to race on and that made it an even playing field. I didn't see a single poly track specialist stealing a race this yesterday.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:40 AM
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You're kidding....right?

It's turf. It has nothing to do with whether or not you make money betting on it. It is NOT a dirt surface and zero DIRT championships were actually decided this weekend at Santa Anita.

The discussion has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not one can make money betting on it.
I re-read what I wrote, and you are probably right..

I guess I only have a problem with those that constantly use the surface as an excuse.. you know what you're getting into going in. You obviously have to take the surface into consideration while handicapping.. Plenty did, and plenty did well.

As for the Aqueduct Inner Dirt statement.. I'm sure that was tongue in cheek.

Congrats to all those who hit big this weekend.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:53 AM
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The defeat of Curlin had nothing to do with the surface, more the fact that he isn't quite the horse he was, coupled with being taken on by better horses than he's faced before. Simple, really, and no excuses.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:57 AM
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The defeat of Curlin had nothing to do with the surface, more the fact that he isn't quite the horse he was, coupled with being taken on by better horses than he's faced before. Simple, really, and no excuses.

i disagree. that surface helped the top two finishers immensely. and i think curlin yesterday was the same horse he's been. no shame in losing to the top two, and taking nothing away from their wins-but do you really think the outcome would have been the same without pro-ride?
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:07 AM
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i disagree. that surface helped the top two finishers immensely. and i think curlin yesterday was the same horse he's been. no shame in losing to the top two, and taking nothing away from their wins-but do you really think the outcome would have been the same without pro-ride?
Beforehand I struggled to envisage Raven's Pass seeing out 1m2f. Johnny G and he proved me wrong in a big way, showing himself the tip-top performer he's promised to be for a long time. Curlin ran his race, not quite as well as 12 months ago, but the balance of evidence suggests that he's not quite the horse of this time last year, the surface surely immaterial. He was simply coming up against a better calibre of horse than he's faced this season.
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