Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

[my miss storm cat]

Just incase there aren't yet enough BC threads, who are you tossing?

Who is a lock?

Play nice in the sandbox kids.

My single is Cocoa Beach, still working on my toss list.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Just incase there aren't yet enough BC threads, who are you tossing?

Who is a lock?

My buddie who is in prison........ Jimmie A. Lock !

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Friday.....
Halfway to Heaven & Zenyatta - SINGLES
Doremifasollatido & Dynaforce - TOSS

Saturday.....
Goldikova & Street Boss - SINGLES
Black Seventeen & Red Rocks - TOSS

[letswastemoney]

Tiago is a lock

[miraja2]

I think the two best singles on the Friday card are in the juvy races:
Stardom Bound in the juvy fillies, and Laragh in the juvy fillies turf.

Of horses that will probably take some money, I think Intangaroo is a toss in the Filly and Mare Sprint. She appears to be much better on the dirt than synthetics, and if the race sets up well for her in terms of pace, it will also set up well for Ventura, who I like a lot more.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I think the two best singles on the Friday card are in the juvy races:
Stardom Bound in the juvy fillies, and Laragh in the juvy fillies turf.

Of horses that will probably take some money, I think Intangaroo is a toss in the Filly and Mare Sprint. She appears to be much better on the dirt than synthetics, and if the race sets up well for her in terms of pace, it will also set up well for Ventura, who I like a lot more.

I would not be stunned to see Ventura hit the board, but I would be stunned if Ventura won. That horse is gutless. Easily the toss of the 2 day card for me.

[mclem0822]

Lock-Zenyatta
Toss-Pyro(Though they did the smart thing staying away from the classic)

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

Lock-Zenyatta

I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I don't really understand how anybody that watched the Spinster could think Zenyatta is a lock. She is the most likely winner to be sure, but McGaughey's mare seems like she loves two-turns on the synthetic.

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I don't really understand how anybody that watched the Spinster could think Zenyatta is a lock. She is the most likely winner to be sure, but McGaughey's mare seems like she loves two-turns on the synthetic.

Great point, I loved Carriage Trail's Spinster, but I still think Zenyatta will be too much for this group.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

If I had a single it would be Midnight Lute(I have 75% of my money on him.) I have cover bets. So, it's not considered a real single.

M LUTE(8/1)+ KIP DEVILLE(7/1)= 71-1
M LUTE+ W'THESCRIPT(10/1)= 98-1
M LUTE+ GOLDIKOVA(9/2)= 48.5-1

Covers:

STREET BOSS(7/2)+KIP DEVILLE+ GET FUNKY(14/1)= 539-1
STREET BOSS+W'THESCRIPT+ GET FUNKY= 741-1
STREET BOSS+GOLDIKOVA+ GET FUNKY= 370-1


FIRST DEFENCE(12/1)+KIP DEVILLE + GET FUNKY=1559-1
FIRST DEFENCE+W'THESCRIPT+ GET FUNKY=2144-1
FIRST DEFENCE+GOLDIKOVA+ GET FUNKY=1071-1

[philcski]

Toss: Munnings
Single: Skipadate

[philcski]

I also think Well Armed is a beast in the "dirt" Mile.

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by philcski

Toss: Munnings
Single: Skipadate

Phil, I agree 100% with Skipadate, he's looking more and more like my best bet of the weekend.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If I had a single it would be Midnight Lute(I have 75% of my money on him.) I have cover bets. So, it's not considered a real single.

M LUTE(8/1)+ KIP DEVILLE(7/1)= 71-1
M LUTE+ W'THESCRIPT(10/1)= 98-1
M LUTE+ GOLDIKOVA(9/2)= 48.5-1

Covers:

STREET BOSS(7/2)+KIP DEVILLE+ GET FUNKY(14/1)= 539-1
STREET BOSS+W'THESCRIPT+ GET FUNKY= 741-1
STREET BOSS+GOLDIKOVA+ GET FUNKY= 370-1


FIRST DEFENCE(12/1)+KIP DEVILLE + GET FUNKY=1559-1
FIRST DEFENCE+W'THESCRIPT+ GET FUNKY=2144-1
FIRST DEFENCE+GOLDIKOVA+ GET FUNKY=1071-1

M LUTE ran monster for Scuds.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really?? Stunned?? She's won 3 of 6 since coming to the US. I think you can toss the try at Churchill since speed was golden all Derby weekend long and they crawled around the track. She certainly vindicated herself a few weeks later at Belmont, a race where she had to dig down and hang on. She lost by a pimple to Diamond Diva and was second to the boys at Woodbine. She's run well on 2 different synthetic surfaces and should get plenty of pace to run at. What am i missing? Are you sure you are thinking of the right horse?

You only missed the fact she's working particularly well on the Pro-Ride. To me, both Intagaroo n' Ventura have a huge chance to win it. Seems like, every time I think something like that in the B.C., the chalk draws off to win easily.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really?? Stunned?? She's won 3 of 6 since coming to the US. I think you can toss the try at Churchill since speed was golden all Derby weekend long and they crawled around the track. She certainly vindicated herself a few weeks later at Belmont, a race where she had to dig down and hang on. She lost by a pimple to Diamond Diva and was second to the boys at Woodbine. She's run well on 2 different synthetic surfaces and should get plenty of pace to run at. What am i missing? Are you sure you are thinking of the right horse?

Yeah, that's the horse all right. Her loss to Diamond Diva was one of those all time great pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory you'll ever see.

I think she's overrated, but does manage to make noise every race. I think there are some fillies in here that are much better than what she's faced sprinting before, so I just don't see her winning.

I will preface all that though and say I'm terrible with synthetic form. Also, watching synthetic races, I feel like I still cannot get a handle on what I'm seeing.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really?? Stunned?? She's won 3 of 6 since coming to the US. I think you can toss the try at Churchill since speed was golden all Derby weekend long and they crawled around the track. She certainly vindicated herself a few weeks later at Belmont, a race where she had to dig down and hang on. She lost by a pimple to Diamond Diva and was second to the boys at Woodbine. She's run well on 2 different synthetic surfaces and should get plenty of pace to run at. What am i missing? Are you sure you are thinking of the right horse?

your like in love with this horse.... she will not win.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by hrfan

she will not win.

[CSC]

By the way just to clarify I am not saying Dynaforce is a lead pipe cinch or anything close to that, just that I wouldn't be comfortable leaving her off any pick3-4 tickets. I would be very happy if either one of Mauralakana or Dynaforce are 7/1 at post time. My first preference would be the former at those odds.

[philcski]

I don't like Dynaforce at ALL. To me, there is nothing more dangerous than reasonably quality lone speed in a turf marathon/distance race, which she was in the Flower Bowl- and won't be here. Need proof? See stakes in the last month or so:

The Saranac
The KY Cup Turf
The Flower Bowl
The Glens Falls

How did said frontrunners do in their next start?? Not so good. 5th, 8th, [yet to run], 3rd (i think)